HC Deb 05 July 1899 vol 73 cc1572-5

Order for Second Reading read.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Bill be now read a second tune."

MR. BANBURY (Camberwell, Peckham)

I beg to ask for some explanation of the Bill. It is impossible to understand it as it stands now, because it seems to be legislation by reference.

MR. CROMBIE (Kincardineshire)

The Bill is simply to remedy a mistake in the Act of 1895. At present if there is any objection raised by any of the local authorities the board could not be established. What we want under this Bill is to be placed on the same footing as England, and that is the whole object of the Bill.


moved, "That the Debate be now adjourned;" but Mr.

SPEAKER, being of opinion that the motion was an abuse of the Rules of the House, declined to propose the question thereupon to the House.

MR. GALLOWAY (Manchester, S.W.)

In view of the fact that this Bill has come on quite by surprise, and also that the Lord Advocate is not in his place, I do not think that we can proceed to the Second Reading without some explanation, and I therefore hope we shall go to a Division against it.

Question put, "That the Bill be now read a second time."

The House divided:—Ayes, 125; Noes, 170. (Division List, No. 222.)

Abraham, Wm. (Cork, N.E.) Flynn, James Christopher O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Allan, William (Gateshead) Foster, Sir W. (Derby Co.) O'Connor, Arthur (Donegal)
Allen, Wm. (Newc. under Lyme Gordon, Hon. John Edward O'Connor, Jas. (Wicklow, W.)
Allhusen, A. Henry Eden Gull, Sir Cameron Oldroyd, Mark
Allison, Robert Andrew Harwood, George Palmer, Sir C. M. (Durham)
Ambrose, Robert Haslett, Sir James Horner Pickard, Benjamin
Asquith, Rt. Hon. H. Henry Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. Pilkington, Sir G. A. (Lancs S W)
Austin, M Healy, Timothy M. (N. Louth) Power, Patrick Joseph
Baird, J. G. Alexander Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H. Price, Robert John
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) Hoare, Samuel (Norwich) Provand, Andrew Dryburgh
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B. Hogan, James Francis Provand, Andrew Dryburgh
Begg, Ferdinand Faithfull Holden, Sir Angus Redmond, William (Clare)
Billson, Alfred Holland, Wm. H. (York, W. R.) Richardson, J. (Durham, S. E.)
Bolton, Thomas Dolling Horniman, Frederick John Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Broadhurst, Henry Johnson-Ferguson, Jabez Ed. Schwann, Charles E.
Burt, Thomas Johnston, William (Belfast) Seely, Charles Hilton
Caldwell, James Jones, David B. (Swansea) Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Cameron, Sir C. (Glasgow) Jones, W. (Carnarvonshire) Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Carvill, P. G. Hamilton Kay-Shuttleworth, Rt Hn Sir U Sidebotham, J.W. (cheshire)
Channing, Francis Allston Kitson, Sir James Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Clark, Dr. G. B. (Caithness-sh. Lambert, George Steadman, William Charles
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Langley, Batty Stephens, Henry Charles
Colville, John Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cumb'land Strachey, Edward
Condon, Thomas Joseph Leng, Sir John Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) Lewis, John Herbert Talbot, Rt. Hn. J. G. (Oxf'd Uni.
Crilly, Daniel Logan, John William Tennant, Harold John
Curran, Thomas B. (Donegal) Lucas-Shadwell, William Thomas, David Alf. (Merthyr)
Curran, Thomas (Sligo, S.) Macaleese, Daniel Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davitt, Michael MacDonnell, Dr. M.A. (Qu'nsC. Walton, Jno. Lawson (Leeds,S.)
Denny, Colonel Maclean, James Mackenzie Wedderburn, Sir William
Dillon, John MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Wills, Sir William Henry
Doogan, P. C. M'Ewan, William Wilson, Charles Henry (Hull)
Doughty, George M'Ghee, Richard Wilson, John (Falkirk)
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) M'Kenna, Reginald Wilson, John (Govan)
Doxford, William Theodore M'Killop, James Woodhouse, Sir JT (Huddersf'd
Dunn, Sir William M'Laren, Charles Benjamin Woods, Samuel
Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas Mappin, Sir F. T. Young, Samuel (Cavan, East)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas Martin, Richard Biddulph Yoxall, James Henry
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan) Mendl, Sigismund Ferdinand
Farquharson, Dr. Robert Molloy, Bernard Charles TELLERS FOR THE AYES
Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith Nicol, Donald Ninian Captain Sinclair and Mr. Crombie.
Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Flannery, Sir Fortescue O'Brien, James F. X. (Cork)
Allsop, Hon. George Garfit, William Myers, William Henry
Anstruther, H. T. Gedge, Sydney Newark, Viscount
Archdale, Edward Mervyn Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St.Albans) Newdigate, Francis Alexander
Arnold, Alfred Giles, Charles Tyrrell O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. Goldsworthy, Major-General Pender, Sir James
Arrol, Sir William Goulding, Edward Alfred Percy, Earl
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy Gray, Ernest (West Ham) Phillpotts, Captain Arthur
Balcarres, Lord Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) Pilkington, R. (Lancs, Newton)
Barnes, Frederic Gorell Gretton, John Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Barry, Rt Hn A. H. Smith-(Hunt Greville, Hon. Ronald Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Barton, Dunbar Plunket Gunter, Colonel Priestley, Sir W. Overend (Edin
Bathurst, Hon. Allen B. Hall, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Beckett, Ernest William Halsey, Thomas Frederick Rankin, Sir James
Bethell, Commander Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert W. Richardson, Sir Thos. (Hartlep'l
Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. Hanson, Sir Reginald Ridley, Rt. Hon. Sir Matt. W.
Blakiston-Houston, John Hare, Thomas Leigh Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Blundell, Colonel Henry Heath, James Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- Heaton, John Henniker Robinson, Brooke
Bowles, T. G. (King's Lynn) Helder, Augustus Rothschild, Hon. Lionel W.
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Henderson, Alexander Russell, T. W. (Tyrone)
Brookfield, A. Montagu Hobhouse, Henry Rutherford, John
Bullard, Sir Harry Howell, William Tudor Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)
Butcher, John George Hubbard, Hon. Evelyn Saunderson, Rt. Hon. Col. E. J.
Campbell, Rt. Hn. J. A. (Gl'sg' w Hutton, John (Yorks, N. R.) Sidebottom, W. (Denbighsh.)
Campbell, J. H. M. (Dublin) Jackson, Rt. Hon. W. Lawies Simeon, Sir Barrington
Carlile, William Walter Jenkins, Sir John Jones Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.) Jessel, Captain Herbert M. Spencer, Ernest
Cayzer, Sir Charles William Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Cecil, Evelyn (Hertford, East) Jolliffe, Hon. H. George Stanley, Edw. Jas. (Somerset)
Chaloner, Captain R. G. W. Kennaway, Rt Hon Sir John H Stanley, Lord (Lancs)
Chamberlain, J. A. (Worc'r) Kenyon, James Stone, Sir Benjamin
Charrington, Spencer Keswick, William Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier
Chelsea, Viscount King, Sir Henry Seymour Sutherland, Sir Thomas
Clarke, Sir Edward (Plymouth) Knowles, Lees Thornton, Percy M.
Coddington, Sir William Laurie, Lieut.-General Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray
Coghill, Douglas Harry Lawrence, Sir E. D. (Corn.) Tritton, Charles Ernest
Cohen, Benjamin Louis Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. Howard
Collings, Right Hon. Jesse Leighton, Stanley Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H.
Cook, Fred Lucas (Lambeth) Loder, Gerald Walter E. Ward, Hon. Robert A. (Crewe)
Cox, Irwin E. Bainbridge Lopes, Henry Yarde Buller Warde, Lieut.-Col. C. E. (Kent)
Cranborne, Viscount Lorne, Marquess of Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C. E.
Cross, Herbert S. (Bolton) Lowe, Francis William Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Currie, Sir Donald Loyd, Archie Kirkman Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Curzon, Viscount Macdona, John Cumming Williams, Joseph Powell-(Birm
Dalbiac, Colonel Philip Hugh Maclure, Sir John William Willox, Sir John Archibald
Digby, J. K. D. Wingfield- Marks, Henry Hananel Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh. N.)
Dorington, Sir John Edward Massey-Mainwaring, Hon W F Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath
Drucker, A. Mellor, Colonel (Lancashire) Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm
Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V. Melville, Beresford Valentine Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Fardell, Sir T. George Middlemore, John T. Wyndham, George
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward Monk, Charles James Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Finch, George H. Montagu, HonJ Scott (Hants.) Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy
Firbank, Joseph Thomas Moon, Edward Robert Pacy Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong
Fisher, William Hayes Moore, William (Antrim, N.) Younger, William
FitzGerald, Sir R. Penrose More, R. Jasper (Shropshire)
Fitz Wygram, General Sir F. Morgan, Hn. F. (Monmouthsh.) TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Galloway and Mr. Banbury.
Fletcher, Sir Henry Morton, A. H. A. (Deptford)
Foster, Colonel (Lancaster) Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath)