HC Deb 24 May 1898 vol 58 cc657-61

Amendment proposed— Page 49, line 9, leave out 'section one hundred and six.'"—(Mr. M. Healy.)


At present, if a policeman in Cork got maimed in a drunken brawl with some soldiers, say, of a Lancashire or a Sussex regiment, he might get £1,000 as compensation, which would be levied upon the ratepayers of Cork. That has happened several times in the county of Cork within the last few years. A policeman is paid handsomely for keeping the peace of Ireland, and he also gets a pension. I cannot, however, get compensation, because I am not a police officer. The man who is paid well for his work, and whose duty it is to pre- Page, 49, line 17, at end, Insert—

3 and 4 Will., c. 37 An Act to alter and amend the laws relating to the temporalities of he Church in Irland—(Mr. Gerald Balfour) Section seventy-two."

Agreed to without a Division.


It appears to me that the Dublin Grand Jury Acts ought to have been included in the schedule of the Acts regulating malicious serve the peace, gets a large pension if this legislation is passed. The Act for the creation of the Irish constabulary was quite a proper thing, for all police officers as they existed, and they should lave been protected in this way, because they were county officers, and there was no means by which they were paid or compensated. The notion that the police of to-day—who are handsomely paid and pensioned, and who are provided with the best of everything—for simply discharging their duty, if they are maimed or injured should be able to mulct the ratepayers, whilst the ordinary subject; of Her Majesty can get nothing if he is hurt in similar circumstances, does seem monstrous. I make this as a protest against keeping alive this ancient archaic piece of legislation passed at a time when Ireland was as different as could possibly be. I beg to move this Amendment.


The constabulary are responsible for the preservation of the public peace, and it is most just and right that they should be protected, because nothing could be more fatal in Ireland than to make the maiming and wounding of policemen a popular amusement. It seems to me that you cannot discriminate in this matter, because when a man is injured in a particular place the fair conclusion is that the members of that community where he is injured should bear the cost of compensation. It is very hard, if a man is injured in the county of Cork, that some other county should be called upon to bear the cost of compensation.


I do not think it will be any good to press the Amendment, and I beg, therefore, to withdraw it.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

injuries. I merely call attention to it, because it appears to me that they ought to be included in the schedule.


Does the right honourable Gentleman move anything?


Yes. I move the Amendment standing in my name as follows:— Schedule 1, page 49, line 35, add— Richmond Lunatic Asylums Act, 1897. That is necessary, because under the 9th section the powers of the Lunatic Asylums Acts are transferred to the new-councils, and for the definition we have to look to the schedule. If this Act was not in the schedule it would not fall within the definition. Under the Lunatic Asylums Act of 1897 extensive borrowing powers were given to lunatic asylums, and special borrowing powers were given to the governors, and also to the Board of Control, and it is absolutely necessary for the conduct of those asylums that those

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Session and Chapter. Title. Short Title.
12 and 13 Vic, c. 91 An Act to provide for the collection of rates in the City of Dublin The Dublin Collection of Rates Act, 1849.
17 and 18 Vic, c. 32 An Act to enable the Collector-General of Dublin to levy money to repay a certain outlay by the Corporation for preserving and improving the port of Dublin in and about repairing the quay wall of the River Liffey and for future repairs thereof, and for repairing and rebuilding bridges over the said river The Dublin Bridge Act, 1854.
Session and Chapter. Title or Short Title.
6 and 7 Will, 4, c. 29 The Dublin Police Act, 1836.
7 Will. 4, and 1 Vic., c. 25 The Dublin Police Act. 1837.
2 and 3 Vic., c. 78 The Dublin Police Act, 1839.
5 and 6 Vic., c. 24 The Dublin Police Act, 1842.
12 and 13 Vic., c. 91 An Act to provide for the collection of rates in the city of Dublin.
22 and 23 Vic., c. 52 The Dublin Police Act, 1859.
31 and 32 Vic., c. 95 The Dublin Police Act, 1867.
37 and 38 Vic., c. 23 The Resident Magistrates and Police Commissioners Salaries Act, 1874.
46 and 47 Vic., c. 14 The Constabulary and Police (Ireland) Act, 1888.
powers should continue. For that reason I would respectfully move this Amendment, and impress upon the right honourable Gentleman the Chief Secretary that the Richmond Lunatic Asylums Act of 1897 should be included in the Acts.


I think there was an earlier Lunatic Asylum Act than that. I thought that the Government Had deliberately excluded it for some reason.


I think we must dispose of this Amendment first.

Amendment agreed to without a Division.

Amendment proposed—


On this should not the Dublin Police Act of 1890, and a portion of the Dublin Collection of Rates Act be included? The original code in existence in Dublin is modified in a large way by the Dublin Private Act of 1890, and. I should have thought when you were applying the Collection of Rates Act it would be necessary to include as one of the Acts the Act of 1890.

Schedule 1 agreed to without a Division.

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