HC Deb 04 March 1895 vol 31 cc367-8

MR. W. P. BYLES (York, W.R., Shipley) moved— That Standing Order No. 92 (Withdrawal of Strangers during Division), be read and rescinded.

THE FIRST COMMISSIONER OP WORKS (Mr. HERBERT J. GLADSTONE,) Leeds, W.

said, the Resolution was only the formal carrying out of the unanimous recommendations of a Committee which sat last year, and it was made in the general interest of Members and of Strangers who sat under the Gallery.

MR. SIDNEY HERBERT (Croydon)

said that, in these circumstances, the Motion was one that ought to be moved, not by a private Member, but by a Member of the Government. A matter involving a change in the Orders of the House ought to be proposed by a Member of the Government, after consultation with the Speaker.

MR. HERBERT GLADSTONE

said, he did not wish to put, or to appear to put, any responsibility on the Speaker, with whom he had communicated as a matter of courtesy. He supported the motion entirely on his own official responsibility.

MR. SIDNEY HERBERT

said, after that statement, it would be better that the matter should stand over until the right hon. Gentleman could consult with his colleagues.

MR. W. P. BYLES

said, perhaps it would be better that he should be allowed to withdraw the Motion, and that the right hon. Gentleman, as Chairman of the Committee, should put it down in his own name. He should be sorry to have it thought that he desired to encroach on the privileges of Official Members. As no one else had done so, he had put the Motion down, thinking it would be for the convenience of the House that it should be passed.

Motion then, by leave, withdrawn.

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