HC Deb 03 February 1893 vol 8 cc396-7
COLONEL NOLAN (Galway, N.)

beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland if the Board of Education in Ireland has passed rules under which the Christian Brothers can receive grants on the terms sketched out in last year's Debates; if these rules have received the assent of the Lord Lieutenant, and if the estimate will provide for any increase of expense under this head; and if the Lord Lieutenant does not sanction such rules, how will the Christian Brothers be admitted to share in the grant?

THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR IRELAND (Mr. J. MORLEY,) Newcastle-upon-Tyne

The Board of Education have recently submitted certain proposed changes in the rules under which grants are paid, but the Lord Lieutenant found himself unable to give his sanction to the changes so proposed. The Christian Brothers can, of course, only be admitted to share in the grants by compliance with the regulations of the Board.

COLONEL NOLAN

Do I understand the right hon. Gentleman to say that the Lord Lieutenant has refused to sanction the second set of rules passed by the Board of Education?

MR. J. MORLEY

I am not sure that the hon. and gallant Gentleman is right in saying that the rules were really "passed." But the Lord Lieutenant has found himself unable to sanction cer- tain changes proposed by the National Board.

MR. SEXTON (Kerry, N.)

Are we to understand that the amended proposal has been rejected, or is it still under consideration? Has the right hon. Gentleman any objection to lay on the Table a copy of the proceedings and votes of the Commission on the subject?

MR. J. MORLEY

It is quite true that on Friday last it was my duty a second time to inform the National Board that the proposed changes could not be sanctioned. I know of no reason why the correspondence on this subject and the minutes of the National Board should not be laid on the Table of the House, but I should like to communicate with the National Board before doing so.

MR. DIAMOND (Monaghan, N.)

Is it not a fact that some of the practices to which the objection is taken in the case of the Christian Brothers' schools in Ireland are carried on in English voluntary schools, where they are made no obstacle to the earning of the grant.

[No answer was given.]