HC Deb 06 June 1890 vol 345 cc258-60

Order for Committee read.

(2.9.) MR. CONYBEARE

I object.

[Sir E. CLARKE took the Chair.]

(In the Committee.)

Clause agreed to.

MR. CONYBEARE

I object.

Clause 2.

THE CHAIRMAN

The Question is that Clause 2 stand part of the Bill.

MR. CONYBEARE

I objected, Sir, to Clause 1 being taken.

THE CHAIRMAN

No hon. Member moved to report Progress on the Question being put.

MR. CONYBEARE

But I objected.

THE CHAIRMAN

The Question is that Section 2 stand part of the Bill. The hon. Member can now move to report Progress.

MR. CONYBEARE

I did not move that, but I said I objected to Clause 1 being put and carried. I objected, and the Chairman had no business to say— [Cries of "Order !"]

(2.11.) THE CHAIRMAN

When I put the Question, "That Clause 1 stand part of the Bill," if any hon. Member had said "No," it would have been my duty to leave the Chair, but no one did so. [Cries of "Yes."] Do I understand that the hon. Member now moves to report Progress?

DR. TANNER

Usually at such an hour—that is to say, after 12 o'clock —when anyone "objects" the Chairman of Committees, when he is presiding, explains to the hon. Member that such an objection is not valid, but that it is possible for him to prevent the passage of the clause by moving to report Progress. That is the method of procedure adopted by the Chairman of Committees; but on this occasion you, Sir, put the clause and declared it carried in the face of objection, though it was probably made out of form and by mistake.

THE CHAIRMAN

The Question now before the Committee is, "That Clause 2 stand part of the Bill." I put that Question, and if any lion. Member says "No" I at once leave the Chair.

(2.12.) MR. CONYBEARE

As you put Clause 1, in face of my opposition, I want to know what remedy we have and how we can go back to that clause, so as to state our objection to it on some other occasion. I wished to oppose the clause, but I objected altogether to going on with the Bill at this hour. I desire to be informed whether we shall have any opportunity of discussing Clause 1?

(2.13.) MR. WADDY (Lincolnshire, Brigg)

The moment Clause 1 was put several Members said "No" [Cries of "Name."]

MR. BRUNNER

I said "No"

MR. HALLEY STEWART

I also said "No"

MR. BRUNNER

Several hon. Members around me said the same, although it may not have reached the Chair.

(2.14.) THE CHAIRMAN

There is no question of order now before the Committee. When I first put the Question there was no negative. Progress has now been moved; therefore, in accordance with the Rules, I now leave the Chair.

Committee report Progress; to sit again upon Monday next.

(2.15.) MR. SPEAKER

having resumed the Chair,

MR, BRUNNER

May I ask, Mr. Speaker, how far we have got with this Bill?

MR. SPEAKER

Order, order! I know nothing of what passes in Committee.

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