HC Deb 18 July 1890 vol 347 cc307-8

On the Motion for Adjournment:—

MR. ESSLEMONT (Aberdeen, E.)

Can the right hon. Gentleman say when the Scotch Estimates will be taken?

SIR W. LAWSON (Cumberland, Cockermouth)

And the Local Taxation Bill?

* THE SECRETARY TO THE TREASURY (Mr. JACKSON,) Leeds, N.

I cannot say when the Scotch Estimates will be taken. The Housing of the Working Classes Bill and the Census Bill will be taken on Monday. I cannot say when the Local Taxation Bill will be taken.

DR. TANNER

Can the right hon. Gentleman inform us whether there is any truth in the report that the 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards is going to be sent to Natal?

* MR. JACKSON

I have no knowledge on the point.

MR. SEXTON (Belfast, W.)

Can the Chancellor of the Exchequer state his intention with regard to the Committee on the fiscal relations between England and Ireland?

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER (Mr. GOSCHEN,) St. George's, Hanover Square

I should be extremely glad if the hon. Member would use his influence towards assisting us to the appointment of the Committee. The chief Amendment in the way is that of a Welsh Member. It is impossible for us to assent to the separation of Wales from the rest of the United Kingdom in this connection; and if this Amendment were not pressed, we might dispose of the matter in a short discussion after 12 o'clock. I am very anxious to get the Committee appointed.

MR. SEXTON

I share the desire of the right hon. Gentleman, but of course I am not in a position to make any promise on behalf of the hon. Member for Glamorgan. May I suggest that there would be no difficulty if the Motion were taken at a time to allow of a short Debate?

* MR. H. J. WILSON (York, W.R., Holmfirth)

May I ask if the Industrial Schools Bill is to be withdrawn? I understand that the Under Secretary has given some intimation to that effect.

THE UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. STUART WORTLEY,) Sheffield, Hallam

My right hon. Friend informs me that it is not his intention to ask the House to. proceed with the Bill.

* MR. H. J. WILSON

Then why keep it on the Papers?

MR. CHANNING (Northampton, E.)

As probably there will be only short discussions upon the Housing of the Working Classes Bill and the Census Bill, perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will say what is to be proposed as the next business on Monday?

MR. GOSCHEN

The Savings Banks Bill and then Report of Supply.

MR. SEXTON

With your leave, Sir, may I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he intends to allow his Motion on the fiscal relations between this country and Ireland to become abortive because of the notice of Amendment given by a Welsh Member? Will he take no steps to secure a discussion?

MR. GOSCHEN

If it can be reached on Monday by half-past 11, I will arrange to bring on the Motion then, but beyond that I cannot pledge myself.

SIR W. LAWSON

If he cannot fix a day for the Local Taxation Bill, will the right hon. Gentleman make a statement on Monday as to the disposal of the surplus money?

MR. GOSCHEN

Yes; I hope on Monday to make a statement as to the intentions of the Government with regard to the unapplied surplus caused by the withdrawal of certain portions of this Bill.

MR. STUART WORTLEY

The hon. Member who asked me a question just now will understand that my remark referred only to the Industrial Schools Bill.

House adjourned at a quarter after Twelve o'clock, till Monday next.