§ MR. T. M. HEALY (Longford, N.)in rising to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department the name of any visitor admitted to see the prisoner John Daly at Chatham Prison since the passing of the Special Commission Act, 1888; the reason for the visit; whether it took place without the presence of warders; and, in what manner and on what grounds the permission to visit was granted, said, that he had received a letter from the Home Secretary desiring him to postpone the question until he obtained details. Might he ask whether the information was not at the Home Office?
§ MR. MATTHEWSI have no information at the Home Office. I have asked for the details.
§ SIR W. HARCOURT (Derby)May I ask whether the right hon. Gentleman cannot obtain the information from the Prison Commissioners, and whether the Prison Commissioners are not under the same roof as the right hon. Gentleman?
§ MR. MATTHEWSThe question put to me asks information as to whether the interview took place in the presence of warders. Information on such facts could only be ascertained through the Governor.
§ MR. T. M. HEALYCan the right hon. Gentleman give the names of any person or persons admitted to see the dynamitard, John Daly, since the Special Commission Act was passed?
§ MR. MATTHEWSI have not the materials with me to enable me to answer that question accurately, and I told the hon. Gentleman that if he postponed his question, I could give him a full and not a partial answer.
§ MR. T. M. HEALYThen I shall put the question in another form. Was 134 Mr. Richard Pigott allowed to see John Daly in prison?
§ MR. MATTHEWSMr. Richard Pigott did—I am speaking from memory, I am not quite sure I am correct—in the month of December last visit John Daly in Chatham Prison at the prisoner's own request. The visit was a private visit under the prison rules.
§ MR. T. M. HEALYI shall put a further question on this subject.