HC Deb 09 May 1884 vol 287 cc1845-6

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether Mr. William Gray, who is one of the Sub-Commissioners for fixing rent in Ireland, is the same Mr. William Gray who is reported to have been in the habit of attending, and occasionally presiding at, political meetings where cheers for the suspects and the Land League, and cries of "no rent," and denunciations of landlordism were common topics, and who, in one speech, said:— If Griffiths' valuation of a farm be twenty shillings per acre, and the taxes, say, three shillings, then eight shillings and sixpence would he a fair rout. But I am not certain that, when the forces represented by steam, and the contemplated arrangements in America are fully carried out and developed, even this will not he an exorbitant rent; and, in a speech on another occasion, is reported to have said: — The farmers did not get, as they should get, the benefit of the Healy Clause… . . They would not, however, give up agitation; and, before 1891, they would have another Act, which would be a greater improvement on the Act of 1881 than the Act of 1881 was on that of 1870…. Lord Monck was a landlord, Judge O'Hagan, who betrayed the early traditions of his youth, Litton, who by false promises was elected for Tyrone, and who now betrayed the farmers, and Vernon, were all landlords.


At present I know of no authority for these statements, except an anonymous paragraph in a London evening newspaper; but I am making inquiry on the subject. I hope the noble Lord (Lord Arthur Hill) will accept this as an answer to his Question on the same subject.