HC Deb 11 May 1882 vol 269 cc527-8

Order for Consideration, as amended, read.

MR. MONK

moved that the Bill, as amended, be further considered.

MR. BUCHANAN

objected.

MR. HEALY

wished to call the attention of the Speaker to the fact that Notice of opposition to the Bill already appeared on the Paper.

MR. MONK

said it was simply progress. The Bill had already been considered on Report.

MR. BUCHANAN

observed that his name appeared upon the Paper as blocking the Bill; and he wanted to know whether the Half-past 12 o'clock Rule was operative or not?

MR. SPEAKER

I consider that if an Amendment had been moved on the original Motion put from the Chair, "That the Bill be now considered," that would be a block; but the House is now engaged with the consideration of a Bill on Report; and, therefore, I am of opinion that the Rule in regard to Opposed Business does not apply.

MR. BUCHANAN

said that under the circumstances, he would move the adjournment of the debate.

MR. SPEAKER

There is no debate at present. I call upon the Attorney General for Ireland to move the clause which stands in his name.

MR. MONK

said, he would move the clause of which the right hon. and learned Attorney General for Ireland had given Notice, which provided that the existing limits of local jurisdiction should not be exceeded.

MR. HEALY

desired to ask, as a point of Order, whether it was competent for one hon. Member to move an Amendment which stood in the name of another, yet that was the course which the hon. Member for Gloucester (Mr. Monk) proposed to take. This was an important matter which affected the interests of Ireland, and he should certainly move the adjournment of the debate if no other hon. Member did so.

MR. SPEAKER

The hon. Member for Gloucester is not entitled to move a clause on behalf of another hon. Member.

MR. MONK

said, he was sorry that he was out of Order in moving the Amendment. He might state, however, that he proposed to move it with the consent of the Attorney General for Ireland. If he was out of Order, he must submit to have the debate adjourned, and he would put down the Bill for Monday.

MR. SPEAKER

I am bound to say that I have never known an instance where a clause brought up on the consideration of a Bill on Report by one hon. Member has been moved by another hon. Member. Such a course is decidedly out of Order.

MR. MONK

wished to remind the right hon. Gentleman in the Chair that this clause itself was only part of the progress on the Bill, as it had already been moved by the right hon. and learned Attorney General for Ireland. Owing to extraordinary circumstances, the right hon. and learned Gentleman was not present; and he (Mr. Monk) would submit to the adjournment of the debate until Monday.

MR. SPEAKER

If the right hon. and learned Gentleman had moved the clause himself that would have been another matter; but, as I am informed, the right hon. and learned Gentleman, as a matter of fact, never did move the clause.

Further Consideration, as amended, deferred till Monday next.