HC Deb 11 August 1881 vol 264 cc1538-9
MR. DAWSON

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, If his attention has been called to the Report of the President of Galway College and to the strong advocacy therein contained of the retention of teaching as a part of University work; and, whether the New Royal University, making no provision for teaching, leaves the great mass of the Irish people without any provision for academic training, whilst a minority will have the Queen's Colleges and Trinity College to supply to them that great advantage?

MR. W. E. FORSTER

, in reply, said, that the hon. Gentleman had asked the same Question yesterday. The hon. Gentleman knew what the Bill was as well as any hon. Member. If he would read the Bill he would see that its object was that the University should be an examining rather than a training body. He did not know whether the object of the Question was to obtain an expression of opinion from him on the subject, and he did not see how his opinion was of any value in the circumstances; but he might state that, though the Universities ought to be as much as possible training bodies, he really saw no advantage in asking a Question which had really reference to the Bill that had passed.

MR. DAWSON

drew satisfaction from the fact that his Question had extracted from an official of the Government the expression of the opinion that the University ought to be a training rather than an examining institution.

MR. BERESFORD HOPE

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether the Senate of the Royal University of Ireland has done anything to meet the objection taken in his letter of July 22nd last, that their scheme has been framed so that the prizes for students "are not limited by either a fixed numerical proportion or a defined standard of attainment;" and, whether the omission of the word "fellowship" from the letter of July 27th 1881, from the secretaries of the Royal University, means that the Senate do not intend to provide any fellowships under the grant now proposed to be made to the Royal University?

MR. W. E. FORSTER

, in reply, said, he had no further communication from the Senate; but it would be easily seen from their letter what the sum appropriated to prizes was. He calculated the expenses at £4,000, the expenses for Professors and Examiners at £8,000, and the remainder of the £20,000 went for prizes. The omission of the word "fellowship" from the latter paragraph of the correspondence was due to the fact that it was really included in a previous paragraph.