HC Deb 01 July 1878 vol 241 cc581-3

Bill considered in Committee.

(In the Committee.)

Clauses 1 and 2 agreed to.

Clause 3 (Guardians may provide for the reception of certain paupers in suitable institutions).

MR. J. LOWTHER moved, in page 1, line 13, after "any," to leave out "parish or."

Amendment agreed to.

MR. MACARTNEY moved, in page 1, line 20, after "therein," to add— Provided always, That the amount to be paid by such union for the reception, maintenance, and instruction of every such pauper so received in any such, hospital or institution shall not exceed the sum of five shillings weekly.

Amendment agreed to.

Clause, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 4 (Guardians may provide for the reception of pauper idiots, &c., in suitable institutions).

MR. MACARTNEY moved, in page 2, at end of clause, to add— Provided always, That the amount to be paid by the guardians of such union for the maintenance of every such idiotic, imbecile, or insane pauper shall not exceed the sum of five shillings weekly.

Amendment agreed to.

Clause, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 5 agreed to.

Clause 6 (Conscience Clause).

MR. MACARTNEY moved, in page 2, line 13, after "unless," to leave out to the end of the clause, and insert— With the consent of his or her immediate relatives, and that of the chaplain of that religious denomination to which he or she may belong.

MR. BRIGGS

could not understand the Amendment. Supposing there was no chaplain to the denomination to which the idiot belonged, what would happen then?

MAJOR NOLAN

said, there was no fear of that. There was always a chaplain in Ireland.

MR. COURTNEY

said, he did not understand the Amendment of the hon. Member for Tyrone (Mr. Macartney). Did he mean the chaplain of the denomination in the asylum to which the pauper belonged? Unless that was meant, how would the authorities be able to discover to what denomination the pauper belonged, and who was his chaplain?

MR. MACARTNEY

said, there would be no such difficulty likely to arise. The denomination of paupers was always ascertained in Ireland on entry to the workhouse, and idiots were registered as being of the same religion as their parents.

THE O'CONOR DON

advised the hon. Member for Tyrone to postpone the Amendment, as he did not think the House at present understood it.

MR. J. LOWTHER

supported the suggestion to postpone the Amendment. He certainly had himself placed the same construction upon the words proposed as the hon. Member for Liskeard (Mr. Courtney) had done, but which it now appeared they were not intended to bear.

MR. MACARTNEY

agreed to postpone the Amendment until Report.

Clause agreed to.

Clause 7 struck out.

Bill reported; as amended, to be considered upon Thursday.