HC Deb 03 August 1874 vol 221 cc1141-4

Standing Order 25 was read, and amended, by inserting in page 16, line 40, after the words "local and road authorities," the words "in England and Scotland."

In line 42, by inserting after "1870," the words— And in Ireland shall be the grand jury of the county in respect to any highway or portion of highway within the jarisdiction of such grand jury; and in respect to highways wholly or partly within any city, borough, town corporate, or other place or district in which the public roads are not under the control of the grand jury of the county, shall be the respective local and road authorities of such city, borough, town corporate, or other place or district mentioned in Section thirty-eight of 'The Tramways (Ireland) Act 1860.'

To follow Standing Order 165:— (Railway Bills charging payments on grand jury cess or local rate to be submitted and approved by grand jury and local authorities.)

Motion made, and Question proposed, That when in any Railway Bill a provision is inserted by which the payment of any moneys is directly or contingently charged upon grand jury cess, or any other local rate in Ireland by means of a guarantee or otherwise, such Bill shall, after the first reading thereof, be referred to the Examiners, who shall report as to compliance or noncompliance with the following order: A copy of the Bill, as deposited in the Private Bill Office, shall be submitted to the grand jury or other authority empowered to present such grand jury cess, or to make such local rate, and according as the payment of any moneys is by the said Bill proposed to be charged upon a county at large, or upon one or more baronies in any county, or upon any part or parts of any barony or baronies, such Bill shall also be submitted to presentment sessions for such county at large, or for such barony or baronies, as the case may be, and also to the poor law guardians of every union in which any lands proposed to be charged with the payment of any moneys are situate: Notice of an intention to submit a copy of such Bill to such grand jury or other authority, and to such presentment sessions and board of guardians, shall be given previously to submitting the same, by advertisement inserted once in each of two consecutive weeks in some one and the same newspaper published in the county upon which, or upon any barony or baronies in which, it is proposed by the Bill to impose any local rate or charge, or if in such county no newspaper is published, then in some one and the same newspaper published in any adjoining county and also in some one morning newspaper published in Dublin: A copy of such Bill shall be submitted not earlier than three months before the time fixed for the deposit of such Bill, and not earlier than the seventh day after the last insertion of such advertisement; and shall be approved by at least two thirds of the members of the grand jury or authority, presentment sessions, and board of guardians respectively to which the same shall have been submitted, and the presentment or resolution of each of the said bodies approving the same shall be signed by all such members of each of such bodies as shall have approved the same, and shall be deposited at the Private Bill Office, together with a statement under the hand of the foreman, chairman, or other person presiding when such presentment was made, or such resolution was passed, of the number of the members then present."—(Sir Michael Hicks-Beach.)

Amendment proposed, In line 17, after the word "same," to insert the words "to the secretary of the grand jury of the county or counties and the clerk of the union or unions in the districts proposed to be assessed and."—(Mr. Downing.)

Question proposed, "That those words be there inserted."

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

An Amendment made, by inserting after the said word "same," the words "to the secretary or clerk of such grand jury or authority and board of guardians, and."

Another Amendment made, in line 24, by leaving out the word "three," and inserting the word "six," instead thereof.

Another Amendment made, in line 27, by omitting the words "at least two-thirds," and inserting the words "a majority," instead thereof.

Amendment proposed, in line 27, after the word "authority," to insert the words "and of at least two-thirds of the members of the board of guardians, and."—(The O' Conor Don.)

Question, "That those words be there inserted," put, and negatived.

Another Amendment made, in line 29, by inserting after the word "submitted," the words "then present and voting thereon."

Another Amendment made, in lines 30 and 31, by leaving out the words "signed by all such members of each of such bodies as shall have approved the same and shall be." Ordered, That when in any Railway Bill a provision is inserted by which the payment of any moneys is directly or contingently charged upon grand jury cess, or any other local rate in Ireland by means of a guarantee or otherwise, such Bill shall, after the first reading thereof, be referred to the Examiners, who shall report as to compliance or noncompliance with the following Order:— A copy of the Bill, as deposited in the Private Bill Office, shall be submitted to the grand jury or other authority empowered to present such grand jury cess, or to make such local rate, and according as the payment of any moneys is by the said Bill proposed to be charged upon a county at large, or upon one or more baronies in any county, or upon any part or parts of any barony or baronies, such Bill shall also be submitted to presentment sessions for such county at large, or for such barony or baronies, as the case may be, and also to the poor law guardians of every union in which any lands proposed to be charged with the payment of any moneys are situate. Notice of an intention to submit a copy of such Bill to such grand jury or other authority, and to such presentment sessions and board of guardians, shall be given previously to submitting the same to the secretary or clerk of such grand jury or authority and board of guardians, and by advertisement inserted once in each of two consecutive weeks in some one and the same newspaper published in the county upon which, or upon any barony or baronies in which, it is proposed by the Bill to impose any local rate or charge, or if in such county no newspaper is published, then in some one and the same newspaper published in any adjoining county and also in some one morning newspaper published in Dublin. A copy of such Bill shall be submitted not earlier than six months before the time fixed for the deposit of such Bill, and not earlier than the seventh day after the last insertion of such advertisement; and shall be approved by a majority of the members of the grand jury or authority, presentment sessions, and board of guardians respectively to which the same shall have been submitted then present and voting thereon, and the presentment or resolution of each of the said bodies approving the same shall be deposited at the Private Bill Office, together with a statement under the hand of the foreman, chairman, or other person presiding when such presentment was made, or such resolution was passed, of the number of the members then present.

To follow Standing Order 171:— (As to bills relating to local government in Ireland.) Ordered, That whenever by any Bill application is made by or on behalf of any municipal corporation, municipal commissioners, or town or other commissioners in Ireland for any now powers or for any increased or additional powers, the promoters shall be required to obtain a certificate under the seal of the Local Government Board of Ireland, setting forth whether such application is made with or without the sanction and approval of the said Local Government Board, which certificate shall be produced before the Committee to whom the Bill is referred, and shall be reported upon by the said Committee.

Ordered, That the said Orders be Standing Orders of this House.

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