HC Deb 03 August 1874 vol 221 cc1223-5

Order for Consideration, as amended, read.

Motion made and Question proposed, "That the Bill, as amended, be now taken into Consideration."—(Sir Michael Hicks-Beach.)

MR. M'CARTHY DOWNING

, in moving that the Bill be considered that day three months, said, the loan was subscribed for the relief of a famine in Ireland, and was not applied in the manner intended. What he would say to the right hon. Gentleman was, let the Bill be withdrawn; and having thus expressed his opinion in reference to the measure, he would move its rejection.

Amendment proposed, to leave out the word "now," and at the end of the Question to add the words "upon this day three months."—(Mr. Downing.)

Question proposed, "That the word 'now' stand part of the Question."

SIR MICHAEL HICKS-BEACH

said, the Resolution to give support to the Irish Fisheries was of a very vague description, but the Government were anxious, as far as possible, to carry out the wishes of the House in the matter. They had, therefore, introduced this Bill with the view of utilizing, for this purpose, an Irish fund, which was at present not satisfactorily employed; and he believed that the only hon. Member opposed to it was the hon. and learned Member for Cork. He assured the hon. and learned Member that it would be used, as it should be used, for reproductive loans for useful purposes. He might point out to him that this was a tentative measure, and he hoped one that would prove advantageous to the poor of Ireland.

MR. SYNAN

said, he could not agree with the right hon. Gentleman that the Resolution was of a vague description. He hoped, however, the hon. and learned Member for Cork would not press his Amendment.

Question put, and agreed to.

Main Question put, and agreed to.

Bill considered.

Clause 5 (Regulations as to loans by Commissioners).

MR. M'CARTHY DOWNING

moved, as an Amendment, the omission of the 2nd sub-section of the clause, on the ground that it limited the assistance to be given to the fisheries of the county of Clare to £170, which would be of no use whatever, and it would be better to leave the matter in the discretion of the Commissioners.

Amendment proposed, in page 3, line 28, to leave out "sub-section 2."—(Mr. Downing.)

Question proposed, "That sub-section 2 stand part of the Bill."

SIR MICHAEL HICKS-BEACH

assured the hon. and learned Gentleman that the sum to be so appropriated was much larger than he supposed. He hoped the hon. Member would not press his Amendment.

Question put.

The House divided:—Ayes 83; Noes 21: Majority 62.

Amendment proposed, in page 4, line 6, to leave out the word "their," in order to insert the word "the,"—(Mr. Downing,)—instead thereof.

Question, "That the word 'their' stand part of the Bill," put, and agreed to.

Amendment proposed, in page 4, line 6, to leave out the words "signed by all," in order to add the word "of,"—(Mr. Downing,)—instead thereof.

Question, "That the words 'signed by all' stand part of the Bill," put, and agreed to.

Bill to be read the third time To-morrow.

House adjourned at One o'clock.