HC Deb 17 June 1870 vol 202 cc448-50

Order for Committee read.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair."

MR. ASSHETON CROSS

said, it was impossible to consider the Bill at so late an hour, and he would, therefore, beg to move that the debate be now adjourned.

Question put, "That the Debate be now adjourned."—(Mr. Cross.)

The House divided:—Ayes 47; Noes 99: Majority 52.

Question again proposed, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair."

MR. BERESFORD HOPE

said, that at that very late hour he would compress his arguments in favour of referring the Bill to a Select Committee. He admitted there was a case; but it was not properly met by the Bill, which trod on thorny ground—the indelibility of Holy Orders. Criticizing the provisions of the Bill, he said that in the Committee he would propose to relieve of disabilities all clergy who had not actual cure of souls, keeping them on those who had. A measure so framed would do that which the present one failed in—namely, avoid that thorny and difficult ground of the character of Holy Orders. As to the clause allowing clergymen who had unhappily taken the step of renouncing their clerical functions to return, he would only say that had such a Bill as the present one been law without a provision of the kind some years ago, the recent return of Mr. Ffoulkes, over which all sound Churchmen so truly rejoiced, would have been impossible. He moved, that the Bill be referred to a Select Committee.

Amendment proposed, To leave out from the word "That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words "the Bill be committed to a Select Committee,"—(Mr. Beresford Hope,) —instead thereof.

Question proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

MR. A. E. GUEST moved that the debate be now adjourned.

MR. HIBBERT

said, he hoped the Motion for adjournment would not be pressed. They might as well divide on the Motion to refer the Bill to a Select Committee. The object sought was inconsistent with the principle of the Bill.

After some discussion as to proceeding with the debate at that late hour,

Question put, "That the Debate be now adjourned."—(Mr. Arthur Guest.)

The House divided:—Ayes 30; Noes 74: Majority 44.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

MR. PELL said

, he had sat for 13 ours in the House consecutively, except when he was at dinner, and he begged to move that this House do now adjourn.

Question put, "That this House do now adjourn."—(Mr. Pell.)

The House divided:—Ayes 28; Noes 73: Majority 45.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That the Debate be now adjourned."—(Mr. Raikes.)

The House divided:—Ayes 24; Noes 69: Majority 45.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That this House do now adjourn."—(Mr. Hodgson.)

The House divided:—Ayes 24; Noes 68: Majority 44.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That the Debate be now adjourned."—(Mr. Heygate.)

The House divided:—Ayes 24; Noes 68: Majority 44.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That this House do now adjourn."—(Mr. Starkie.)

The House divided:—Ayes 24; Noes 68: Majority 44.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That the Debate be now adjourned."—(Mr. Rowland Winn.)

The House divided:—Ayes 24; Noes 66: Majority 42.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That this House do now adjourn."—(Colonel Charles Lindsay.)

The House divided:—Ayes 24; Noes 66: Majority 42.

Question again proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, "That the Debate be now adjourned."—(MR. Finch.)

The House divided:—Ayes 21; Noes 66: Majority 45.

Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

The House divided:—Ayes 70; Noes 15: Majority 55.

Main Question, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair," put, and agreed to.

Bill considered in Committee.

Committee report Progress; to sit again upon Friday next.

House adjourned at a quarter before Four o'clock in the morning, till Monday next.