HC Deb 16 August 1867 vol 189 c1614
SIR ROUNDELL PALMER

, in moving that the Lords' Reasons for disagreeing with certain of the Commons' Amendments in this Bill should be considered that day month, said, that the Bill was not introduced for the purpose of founding new bishoprics out of funds in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners; it had never been discussed or justified upon such a principle, nor had it ever been shown that there were in the hands of the Commissioners any funds which could properly be applied to that purpose; and he regretted to find that in the House of Lords that had been made an obstacle to agreeing to certain of the Commons' Amendments. Another matter upon which there was a difference of opinion was as to whether or not the new Bishops should sit in the House of Lords. In that House there was a general opinion that they ought not; but some Members of the other House had felt themselves unable to agree to their exclusion. The failure of the Bill did not rest with that House, it rested entirely with those in the other House who had apparently felt that public funds, and not private subscriptions, ought to be relied upon for the support of these new bishoprics, and that if they were established they ought to be founded strictly upon the same system as applied to the existing bishoprics.

Motion agreed to.

Order discharged: Bill withdrawn.