HC Deb 17 March 1864 vol 174 cc289-92

Civil Service Estimates, Class I., considered in Committee.

(In the Committee.)


said, he had to move a Vote of £1,256,000, on account of the Civil Service Estimates. It was absolutely necessary to pass the Vote before the House separated for the Easter recess.

£1,866,000, on account of certain Civil Services:—

Class I.
Royal Palaces £12,000
Public Buildings 30,000
Furniture of Public Offices 5,000
Royal Parks and Pleasure Gardens 25,000
New Houses of Parliament 10,000
British Embassy Houses Abroad 1,000
New Foreign Office, Buildings 20,000
Probate Court Registries 3,000
General Register House, Edinburgh 1,000
Public Record Repository 7,000
Westminster Bridge Approaches 5,000
New Westminster Bridge 3,000
Holyhead Harbour 10,000
Public Buildings, Ireland 25,000
New Record Buildings, Dublin 5,000
Rates for Government Property 7,000
Class II.
Two Houses of Parliament, Offices 18,000
Treasury 14,000
Home Office 7,000
Foreign Office 19,000
Colonial Office 8,000
Privy Council Office 7,000
Board of Trade, &c. 17,000
Privy Seal Office 1,000
Civil Service Commission 3,000
Paymaster General's Office 5,000

Exchequer (London) 2,000
Office of Works and Public Buildings 9,000
Office of Woods, Forests & Land Revenues 8,000
Public Records, &c. 6,000
Poor Law Commissions 20,000
Mint, including Coinage 14,000
Inspectors of Factories, Fisheries, &c 9,000
Exchequer and other Offices in Scotland 2,000
Household of Lord Lieutenant, Ireland 2,000
Chief Secretary, Ireland, Offices 5,000
Inspection, &c., of Lunatic Asylums, Ireland 1,000
Office of Public Works, Ireland 6,000
Audit Office 9,000
Copyhold, Tithe, and Inclosure Commission 5,000
Ditto, Imprest Expenses 4,000
General Register Offices, England, Ireland, and Scotland 17,000
National Debt Office 4,000
Public Works Loan Commission & West India Relief Commission 1,000
Lunacy Commissions 2,000
Registrars of Friendly Societies 1,000
Charity Commission 4,000
Local Government Act Office, and Inspection of Burial Grounds 2,000
Landed Estates Record Offices 1,000
Quarantine Expenses 1,000
Secret Service 8,000
Printing and Stationery 90,000
Postage of Public Departments 35,000
Class III.
Law Charges, England 9,000
Criminal Prosecutions, &c. 50,000
Police, Counties and Boroughs, Great Britain 60,000
Crown Office, Queen's Bench 2,000
Admiralty Court Registry 3,000
Late Insolvent Debtors' Court 2,000
Probate Court 21,000
County Courts 40,000
Land Registry Office 2,000
Police Courts (Metropolis) 6,000
Metropolitan Police 40,000
Bankruptcy Court Compensations 5,000
Lord Advocate and Solicitor General, Salaries 1,000
Court of Session 5,000
Court of Justiciary 3,000
Prosecutions under the Lord Advocate. 2,000
Exchequer, Scotland, Legal Branch 1,000
Sheriffs and Procurators Fiscal not paid by Salaries, and Expenses of Prosecutions in Sheriff Courts 9,000
Procurators Fiscal, Salaries 6,000
Sheriff Clerks 4,000
Register House, Edinburgh, Salaries and Expenses of Sundry Departments 5,000
Law Charges and Criminal Prosecutions 16,000
Court of Chancery 2,000
Courts of Queen's Bench, Common Pleas, and Exchequer 3,000
Process Servers 3,000
Registrars to the Judges, and Clerk of the Court of Errors 2,000
Manor Courts Compensations 1,000
Registry of Judgments 1,000
Court of Bankruptcy and Insolvency 2,000
Court of Probate 3,000
Landed Estates Court 4,000
Dublin Metropolitan Police and Police Justices 13,000
Constabulary of Ireland 200,000
Four Courts Marahalsea Prison 1,000
Inspection and General Superintendence 5,000
Prisons and Convict Establishments at Home 90,000
Maintenance of Prisoners in County Gaols, &c., and Removal of Convicts 70,000
Transportation of Convicts 10,000
Convict Establishments in the Colonies 50,000
Class IV.
Public Education, Great Britain 180,000
Science and Art Department 38,000
Public Education, Ireland 80,000
University of London 2,000
Universities, &c., in Scotland 6,000
Queen's Colleges, Ireland 2,000
Belfast Theological Professors, &c. 1,000
British Museum 23,000
National Gallery 5,000
Scientific Works and Experiments 2,000
Class V.
Bermudas 1,000
Clergy, North America 1,000
Governors and others, West Indies, &c. 3,000
Justices, West Indies 1,000
Western Coast 4,000
St. Helena 2,000
Falkland Islands 2,000
Labuan 2,000
Emigration 3,000
Treasury Chest 5,000
Captured Negroes, Bounties on Slaves, &c 15,000
Commissions for Suppression of Slave Trade 3,000
Consuls Abroad 42,000
Services in China, Japan, and Siam 5,000
Ministers at Foreign Courts, extraordinary Expenses 10,000
Special Missions, Outfits, &c 10,000
Third Secretaries to Embassies 1,000
Class VI.
Superannuation and Retired Allowances 60,000
Polish Refugees & Distressed Spaniards 1,000
Merchant Seamen's Fund Pensions 4,000
Relief of Distressed British Seamen 9,000
Miscellaneous Charges, formerly Civil List 1,000
Public Infirmaries, Ireland 1,000
Westmoreland Lock Hospital 1,000
House of Industry Hospitals 2,000
Cork Street Fever Hospital 1,000
Dr. Steevens's Hospital 1,000
Concordatum Fund, and other Charities and Allowances, Ireland 3,000
Non-conforming and other Ministers, Ireland 11,000
Class VII.
Temporary Commissions 4,000
Patent Law Expenses 8,000
Fishery Board, Scotland 4,000
Local Dues on Shipping, under Treaties of Reciprocity 16,000
Inspectors of Corn Returns 1,000
Miscellaneous Charges from Civil Contingencies 1,000
Total £1,866,000

said, he had protested last year against the system of taking Votes on account before the Estimates were in the hands of hon. Members, and he wished to repeat that protest. The practice was irregular and unconstitutional.


said, he hoped the Committee would not suppose it was asked to do anything irregular. The course of public business rendered it almost impossible to get Votes in Supply regularly passed before Easter, and thus Votes on account became indispensable.


said, he wished to ask, Why it was that the production of the whole of the Civil Service Estimates was so long delayed, the Array and Navy Estimates having been already placed in the hands of Members?


said, the Civil Service Estimates embraced so many points, and were governed by so many considerations, that it was impossible to get them ready at an equally early date. The Army and Navy Estimates were governed by comparatively few considerations, and were within the control of the Departments.

Vote agreed to.

House resumed.

Resolution to be reported To-morrow.

Committee to sit again To-morrow.