HC Deb 07 July 1862 vol 167 cc1565-6

Order for Committee read.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair."


moved, as an Amendment, that the Bill be committed this day three months. He thought that it was too late an hour (a quarter past one o'clock) to commence a discussion on the measure. The present mode, according to which the county surveyors in Ireland were appointed, was better than the plan proposed by this Bill, which would establish a system of centralization, in as much as the qualifications of candidates were to be examined into by the Civil Service Commissioners in England instead of by the Board now appointed by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. His opinion was that even with the Amendments of which notice had been given, the Bill could not be made a presentable measure; and he concluded by moving that the House should go into Committee upon it that day three months.

Amendment proposed, To leave out from the word "That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words "this House will, upon this day three months, resolve itself into the said Committee, —instead thereof.

Question, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question," put, and agreed to.

Main Question put, and agreed to.

House in Committee.

Clause 1 agreed to.

Clause 2.


moved that the Chairman should report progress.

Motion made, and Question put, "That the Chairman do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again."

The Committee divided: — Ayes 5; Noes 62: Majority 57.


said, that seeing such a determination evinced on the part of some of the Members from Ireland to offer every opposition to the measure, he should move that the Chairman should report progress and ask leave to sit again.


stated his determination to oppose the measure throughout.


hoped that the right hon. Gentleman would not be induced to withdraw the measure.


said, his right hon. Friend had no intention of withdrawing the Bill.

House resumed.

Committee report Progress; to sit again on Thursday.

House adjourned at Three o'clock.