HC Deb 22 June 1860 vol 159 cc859-60
MR. VINCENT SCULLY

, referring to the proclamation or police notice, whichever it might be, which had been recently issued by the Government in Ireland, said he had been asked how to evade an unjust law as to which a similar proclamation was recently issued in Ireland, declaring it illegal to enter into a lottery for certain charitable purposes, and he had mentioned the name of the noble Lord at the head of the Foreign Office (Lord John Russell) as an authority that the best way to avoid an unjust law was to break it, inasmuch as he had heard the noble Lord state that he had formerly subscribed towards the prosecution of a revolutionary movement in a foreign state—Greece—a proceeding which the right hon. Gentleman the Secretary for the Homo Department, after what fell from him in that House, must regard as a breach of the law. When he was lately applied to in Ireland for advice in a similar instance, he said he never advised a breach of the law; but as the noble Lord had stated that he had broken the law without being prosecuted, perhaps they would follow his example. He told the parties, however, to be sure not to quote him as their adviser. He had a question on the paper which he wished to put to the Attorney General for Ireland. Before putting it, however, he would say, with reference to the question of the hon. Member for Finsbury, that he could see no possible objection to the proceedings of the House of Lords being laid on the table daily. He wished, in the next place, to know how the Rag Committee on Paper Duties were getting on. They did not seem alive at all. They were very mute; they had now been appointed four or five weeks, and they had heard nothing of their proceedings. ["Question."] His question related to the transfer of land in Ireland. That was, perhaps, the most important matter that had been or could be discussed this Session. ["Question, question!"] While he made jokes for the amusement of the House hon. Members gave him a very attentive hearing, but the moment he began to talk rational common sense he was met with cries of "Question." He would not trouble the House further. ["Go on, go on!"] He was in the hands of the House. ["Question."] He would, then, defer discussion until the Attorney General brought forward his Bill. The notice with reference to that Bill had been on the paper twenty times at least. He did not say this in any unfriendly spirit to the Attorney General. He knew the difficulties he had to contend with, having regard to the business of the Government. ["Question."] He would not ask any question, but with an apology to the Attorney General for having given him the trouble to attend, he would now yield to these unseemly interruptions, and resume his seat.