HC Deb 15 June 1843 vol 69 cc1574-6
Lord Stanley

moved the third reading of the Canada wheat bill.

Colonel Sibthorp

moved that it be read a third time that day six months.

Mr. Hume

said, that since this bill passed its last stage, accounts had been received from Canada of the death of Sir Charles Bagot. In his opinion, no man had done more to meet the wishes of the community over whom he presided, or had succeeded better in turning a discontented population into a quiet and satisfied people. The thanks of the public of Canada had been conveyed to Sir Charles Bagot in formal addresses; and he deeply regretted that the hon. Gentleman had not survived to witness the effect which must have been derived from the sound and excellent constitutional principles which he had himself acted upon. He cared not who originated the policy of that excellent man. It was enough for him to know that it had been adopted, and that that policy had tended to the happiness of the whole community. It was a course of Government calculated to win the affections of the people, and he trusted it would be followed out by all succeeding Governments.

Mr. Labouchere

expressed a hope that the intention of her Majesty's Government should be distinctly made known as to their future course with regard to the colonies of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia.

Lord Stanley

said, that the present measure was one which affected Canada, and Canada alone. Canada stood upon a different footing from New Brunswick and Nova Scotia; and he felt himself entirely free from any pledge with respect to bringing in a similar bill at any future Session in reference to those colonies. Nothing could be more inconvenient than to call upon Government to give a pledge as to any future measure in any future Session upon so important a subject as that of the Corn-laws, especially when the object, after all, was, comparatively speaking, an insignificant one. The question would, of course, remain open, and, if necessary, might be made the subject of a distinct discussion; at the same time, relating as it did to so important a matter as the Corn-laws, it ought not to be treated lightly.

Lord Worsley

said, the bill had now arrived at its third reading, and from the sentiments expressed by those members who represent more particularly the commercial interest in this House, and from those of the noble Lord, he (Lord Worsley) felt justified in saying that, it was considered of but little advantage. The Members representing the agricultural interest declared that their constituents felt great dread of the measure. When a bill similar to this was introduced by the hon. and gallant Member for Dartmouth (Sir John Seale), an objection to it was expressed by one who, whatever the opinions of Members might be, must always deservedly carry much weight in the House. The right hon. Baronet at the head of the Government, on the occasion of the second reading of that bill, spoke as follows:— To come to a fair decision upon the measure before the House, I am obliged to compare the benefit which it will confer on the commercial interests, with its probable effects on the interests of the agriculturists. Now in my opinion, the benefit which the commercial classes will derive from the present bill, is extremely small, but I will not on that account oppose it, but I will do so because I believe that if it do pass, the discontent and dissatisfaction which it will create throughout the agricultural community will more than counterbalance any advantage which it is capable of yielding. For these reasons thus expressed by the right hon. Baronet, he (Lord Worsley) felt justified in moving that the Bill be read a third time that day six months.

The House divided on the question that the word " now" stand part of the question. Ayes 150; Noes 75: Majority 75.

List of the AYES.
List of the AYES.
Acland, Sir T. D. Clive, hon. R. H.
Adare, Visct. Colquhoun, J. C.
Adderley, C. B. Compton, H. C.
Aglionby, H. A. Connolly, Col.
Aldam, W. Corry, rt. hon. H.
Antrobus, E. Courtenay, Lord
Arkwright, G. Cresswell, B.
Attwood, M. Cripps, W.
Baldwin, B. Dawnay, hon. W. II.
Baring, hon. W. B. Dickinson, F. H.
Beckett, W. Douglas, Sir H.
Blackburne, J. I. Douglas, Sir C. E.
Boldero, H. G. Douglas, J. D. S.
Borthwick, P. Drummond, H. H.
Botfield, B. Dugdale, W. S.
Bowes, J. Egerton, W. T.
Bramston, T. W. Egerton, Sir P.
Broad wood, H. Eliot, Lord
Brotherton, J. Ellice, E.
Bruce, C. L. C. Escott, B.
Buckley, E. Estcourt, T. G. B.
Buller, C. Feilden, W.
Buller, Sir J, Y. Fielden, J.
Burroughes, H. N. Filmer, Sir E.
Cardwell, E. Flower, Sir J.
Chelsea, Visct. Gaskell, J. Milnes
Chute, W. L. W, Gladstone.rt.hn.W.E.
Clayton, R.R. Glynne, Sir S. R.
Clerk, Sir G. Gordon, hot). Capt.
Graham, rt. hn. Sir J. Newry, Visct.
Granger, T. C. Nicholl, rt. hon. J.
Greenall, P. Norreys, Lord
Greene, T. Northland, Visct.
Halford, H. Packe, C. W.
Hamilton, G. A. Peel, rt. hon. Sir R.
Hamilton, W. J. Peel, J.
Hampden, R. Polhill, F.
Harcourt, G. G. Pollock, Sir P.
Hardinge,rt. hn.SirH. Powell, Col.
Hatton, Capt. V. Pringle, A.
Hepburn, Sir T. B. Reid, Sir J. R.
Herbert, hon. S. Rice, E. R.
Hinde, J. H. Roche, Sir D.
Hodgson, F. Round, J.
Hodgson, R. Russell, C.
Hogg, J. W. Ryder, hon. G. D.
Hope, G. W. Sandon, Visct.
Howard, P. H. Sheppard, T.
Hughes, W. B. Smith, rt. hn. T. C. B.
Hume, J. Smollett, A.
Ingestre, Visct. Somerset, Lord G.
Jermyn, Earl " Sotheron, T. S. H.
Johnstone, Sir J. Stanley, Lord
Jones, Capt. Stewart, J.
Kemble, H. Sturt, H. C.
Knatchbull,rt.hn.SirE Sutton, hon. H. M.
Lambton, H. Tennent, J. E.
Legh, G. C. Trench, Sir F.W.
Lincoln, Earl of Trotter, J.
Lockhart, W. Vane, Lord 11.
Lord Mayor of London Verner, Col.
Lowther, J. H. Vernon, G. II.
Lygon, hon. Gen. Vesey, lion. T.
Mackenzie, T. Vivian, J. E.
Mackenzie, W. F. Wall, C. B.
Mc Geachy, F. A. Ward, H. G.
Mainwaring, T. Welby, G. E.
Marsham, Visct. Wilbraham, hn. R. B.
Martin, C. W. Williams, W.
Master, T. W C. Wood, Col.
Masterman, J. Wortley, hon. J. S.
Maxwell, hon. J. P. Yorke, hon. E. T.
Meynell, Capt. Young, J.
Milnes, R. M.
Morgan, O. TELLERS.
Morris, D. Fremantle, Sir T
Mundy, E. M. Baring, H.
List of the NOES.
Allix, J. P. Darby, G.
Arundel and Surrey, Dennistoun, J.
Earl of D'Eyncourt, rt.hn.C.T
Bailey, J. Jun. Duncan, G.
Bankes, G. Dundas, D.
Baring, rt. hn. F. T. Dungannon, Visct.
Barnard, E. G. Du Pre, C. G.
Baskerville, T. M. B. Eaton, R. J.
Benett, J. Ebrington, Visct.
Blackstone, W. S. Farnham, E. B.
Blewitt, R. J. Ferguson, Sir R. A.
Broadley, H. Fitzroy, Lord C.
Buck, L. W. Forster, M.
Busfeild, W. Fuller, A. E.
Carew, hon. R. S. Grey, rt. hon. Sir G.
Chetwode, Sir J. Hawes, B.
Craig, W. G. Heathcote, G. J.
Henley, J. W, Pechell, Capt.
Horsman, E. Pusey, P.
Hoskins, K. Redington, T. N.
Howard, hn. C. W.G. Rushbrooke, Col.
Howard, Lord Smyth, Sir H.
Howard, hon. H. Stanley, E.
Labouchere, rt. hn.H. Stanton, W. H.
McTaggart, Sir J. Stuart, W. V.
Martin, J. Strickland, Sir G.
Miles, W, Tollemache, J.
Milcalfe, H. Towneley, J.
Morison, Gen. Trelawny, J. S.
Murphy, F. S. Trollope, Sir J,
Murray, C. R. S. Tuite, H. M.
Neeld, J. Turnor, C.
Norreys, Sir D. J Waddington, U. S.
O'Brien, A. S. Worsley, Lord
O'Brien, J. Wyndham, Col. C.
O'Conor Don Wyse, T.
Ossulston, Lord
Paget, Col. TELLERS,
Palmer, G. Sibthorp, Col.
Palmerston, Visct. Ferrand, R. B.

Main question agreed to.

Bill read a third time and passed.