§ Sir E. Knatchbullmoved the Committal of the Debts of Parishes Bill.
§ Mr. F. Maulewished to know, before assenting to this bill, what the object of it was?
§ Sir E. Knatchbullreplied that his object was to provide for the payment of debts incurred by parishes before the passing of the Poor-law Bill.
§ Mr. B. Woodsaid, those debts might have been contracted a hundred years ago, and it was, in his opinion, very unjust to 1400 saddle the new occupiers with the payment of these debts. He should move that this bill be postponed to that day six months.
§ Mr. Darbymaintained that the continuance of the payment of the interest of these debts by the parishes was a proof that they coincided in the opinion that they were legal.
§ Mr. Warburtonmaintained, that the investigation of these alleged facts was necessary, and that a committee was the only proper tribunal for adjudicating upon them.
§ Sir E. Knatchbullsaid, that the present bill had received the sanction of all parties at the commencement of the Session, and not only the Poor-law Commissioners but the Government had agreed to it. He would give one instance, whereby they would see the necessity for the bill. A certain parish had been informed that its poor were entitled to a certain disputed property, and they had obtained a loan for the purpose of meeting the expense of prosecuting their rights at law. They had succeeded, and were then in possession of the property, but since the passing of the new Poor-law Act the commissioners had conceived that they had no right to authorise the payment either of the principal or interest of the money so advanced. Cases of that description were frequently occurring,
§ Mr. Hawesobserved, it was not usual to take the views of the Poor-law Commissioners from the other side of the House. He thought it would be better that the debate be adjourned to Friday.
§ Mr. HumeOven supposing that petitions were before the House demanding this bill, the facts contained in them should be submitted to a committee.
§ Committee adjourned to Friday.
§ Adjourned.