HC Deb 26 June 1833 vol 18 cc1251-4

Mr. Robert Grant moved the Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into a Committee on the Jews' Relief from Disabilities Bill.

Sir Robert Inglis

hoped that, at that late hour, one of the most important Bills ever discussed would not be pressed upon the House; if it was, he should take the sense of the House on the question of going into the Committee.

Mr. Robert Grant

said, he should be extremely sorry to press the subject m the House at an inconvenient time, but his hon. friend would recollect the time that had been wasted, that expectations bad been suspended, that two debates bad already taken place on the principle of the Bill, and if there ever was a Bill in which the details were identified with the principle, this was such.

The Speaker put the question that the Order of the Day be read, when

Sir Charles Burrell moved, that the House do adjourn.

A Division took place cm the Amendment—Ayes 22; Noes 117: Majority 95.

List of the AYES.
Agnew, Sir A. Forster, C S.
Bruce, C. Gaskell, J. M.
Butler, E. Gladstone, W. E.
Callander, J. H. Henniker, Lord
Colquhoun, J. Hughes, W. H.
Johnstone, A. Sinclair, G.
Lennox, Lord A. Stormont, Viscount
Lowther, Colonel Stuart, Captain
Martin, J. Tyrell, C.
Maxwell, J.
Nicholl, J. TEILERS.
Perceval, Colonel Burrell, Sir C.
Plumptre, J. Inglis, Sir R. H.

On the Question that the Speaker do leave the Chair,

Sir Robert Inglis

opposed the Motion. He contended that the advantage gained by the parties who were the objects of the Bill was little, whilst the principle was a serious one With great respect to the majority from whom be differed, the principle was so important that be should not do just ice to himself or the country, if he did not take every opportunity of opposing this Bill. He should move that the debate be adjourned to this day six months.

Sir Charles Burrell

seconded this Amendment.

Mr. Tooke

remarked, that the hon. Baronet opposite might not be so alarmed at the awful consequences to be expected from this Bill, as such in measure had already existed as the law of the land for seven years; for by the 4th or 5th of George 1st, on account of the rebellion of 1715, the words now proposed to be omitted in the oath of abjuration were omitted for certain purposes during the period he bad already stated.

The House divided on the Amendment—Ayes 24; Noes 117: Majority 93.

List of the AYES.
Agnew, Sir A. Lowther, Colonel
Biddulph, R. M. Maxwell, J.
Bruce, C. Mosley, Sir O.
Buller, K. Perceval, Colonel
Callander, J. H. Plumptre, J.
Fancourt, Major Shaw, F.
Forster, C. S. Sinclair, G.
Gladstone, W. E. Stormont, Viscount
Hay, Sir J. Stuart, C.
Henniker, Lord Tyrell, C.
Hughes, W. H. TEILERS.
Johnstone, A. Burrell, Sir C.
Lennox, Lord A. Inglis, Sir R. H.

On the question being again put that the Speaker do leave the Chair,

Mr. Hughes Hughes

said he would give all the opposition in his power to the measure. Many Members who were anxious to deliver their sentiments on it, were not aware that it would have come on that night. He, therefore, moved that the House do now adjourn.

Viscount Palmerston

put it to the hon. Member whether, after the House had already two discussions on the principle of the Bill, he would persist in such a Motion.

Lord Stormont

would support the Amendment on the ground stated by the hon. member for Oxford.

Mr. Sinclair

said, that though he felt strongly opposed to the Bill, he would not certainly support the present Amendment. The Motion was not pressed, and the House went into a Committee on the Bill.

Sir Oswald Mosley

proposed, as an Amendment on the first Clause, which went to admit Jews to all the privileges to which Roman Catholics had been admitted, the introduction of the Words "save and except to scats in either House of Parliament."

The Committee divided—Ayes 23; Noes 118: Majority 95.

List of the AYES.
Agnew, Sir A. Lennox, Lord A.
Biddulph, R. Lowther, Col.
Bruce, C. Martin, Thomas
Buller, Edward Maxwell, John
Burrel, Sir C. Perceval, Col.
Callander, J. H. Plumptre, W.
Fancourt, Major Sinclair, George
Forester, G. C. W. Stormont, Lord
Hay, Sir John Stuart, Captain
Henniker, Lord Tyrrell, Charles
Hughes, Hughes
Inglis, Sir R. H. TEILERS.
Johnston, Andrew Mosley, Sir O.
Mr. Andrew Johnston

, in reference to the oath, provided by the 1st Clause, to be taken by Jews on taking their seats in Parliament said, that in consequence of the interpretation which had been already put upon a similar oath inserted in the Catholic Bill, he did not see the use of having such an oath taken at all, and he, therefore, moved that the proviso in question be altogether omitted.

The Committee divided on the Amendment—Ayes 20; Noes 104: Majority 84.

The 1st Clause agreed to.

On the 2nd Clause being read,

Mr. Plumptre

said, that, with a view to nullify the measure, and, if possible, to defeat it, he would move the insertion of the words "in the true faith of a Christian," which had been omitted out of the oath.

The Chairman

suggested that the better way would be to move that the 2nd Clause should be expunged, which the hon. Member accordingly did, and the Committee divided—Ayes 19; Noes 110: Majority 91

The House resumed. The Report brought up, and ordered to be received.