HC Deb 10 July 1832 vol 14 cc214-5
Mr. James E. Gordon

presented a Petition from Glasgow against the grant to the College of Maynooth.

Upon the Motion that it be printed,

Mr. O'Connell

opposed the printing of the petition, from its containing the word idolatry. He thought that the language of polemics should not be introduced into Parliament, for if such were the case, terms enough of abuse would be found on both sides. The hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. A. Johnston), and the gallant Officer near him (Captain Gordon) seemed exceedingly anxious to convert himself and others to their doctrine, but he begged to assure them, that the use of abusive language would never effect such an object. For his own part, he frequently treated such conduct with silence. But he could not permit a petition, from some place or the other in the wilds of Scotland, when ancient feuds and bad feelings were called into account, to be printed; it might lay on the Table. He would say, too, for his Catholic brethren, that they would rather perish at the stake than submit to idolatry. He had never presented a petition containing the word heretic.

Mr. Dundas

confessed he entertained the same opinion as the petitioners. If any petitions did come from the wilds of Scotland, they were always couched in respectful language; and if the petition was not printed by order of the House, it would be at the cost of the petitioners.

Mr. Sheil

observed, that this petition contained phrases equally objectionable with those contained in a former petition presented by the hon. Member. It talked of Catholics being red with the blood of the saints.

Mr. James E. Gordon

contended, that no language was made use of that was not to be found in the standard works of the Protestant Church.

Question negatived.

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