§ 3.17 p.m.
§ Lord Swansea asked Her Majesty's Government:
§ Whether it is legal for bicycles to be ridden on the pavements.
§ The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Transport (Viscount Goschen)My Lords, it is an offence to cycle on the footway unless there are signs allowing shared use with pedestrians.
§ Lord SwanseaMy Lords, I thank my noble friend for that admirably concise and not unexpected Answer. However, can he say why that law is not enforced? We see bicycles being ridden on the pavements every day, often endangering elderly, disabled and blind pedestrians, and that is only part of the growing tendency of many cyclists completely to flout the traffic regulations. I refer, for example, to jumping traffic lights, cycling after dark without lights and cycling the wrong way in a one-way street, all of which I have seen. Will the Government mount an intensive campaign to impress upon cyclists the fact that a bicycle is a vehicle and is as much subject to the traffic laws as any other vehicle whether on two, three or four wheels?
§ Viscount GoschenMy Lords, I fully appreciate and share my noble friend's concerns on safety grounds. We are doing a lot to make cyclists more aware of their legal responsibilities. We are talking about existing offences under the law. The enforcement of that law is a matter for the police and is at their discretion.
§ Lord StrabolgiMy Lords—
§ Lord MolloyMy Lords—
The Lord Privy Seal (Viscount Cranborne)My Lords, far be it for me to interfere in a personal quarrel, but I wonder whether the noble Lord, Lord Strabolgi, might be allowed to ask his question.
§ Lord StrabolgiMy Lords, remembering what the Minister said about this being a matter for the police, is he aware that bicycling has increased considerably in 1365 central London? Is he aware that when I went to our local police station they said that they were unable to deal with the problem because they did not have enough manpower or resources? Will he look into that matter?
§ Viscount GoschenMy Lords, I shall of course refer the noble Lord's comments to my right honourable friend the Home Secretary. Nevertheless, the offences he mentioned exist and the police will have to set their priorities according to the demands upon their services.
§ Lord BeloffMy Lords, will my noble friend make it clear to chief constables outside London that the law is as he stated? Cyclists go along the pavement on the front at Brighton to the great detriment of patients from St. Dunstan's and those who are trying to give them some fresh air and exercise.
§ Viscount GoschenMy Lords, I am sure that the police and the chief constables are well aware of the law. It is important to differentiate between a footpath and a footway. Local authorities can make by-laws or obtain traffic regulation orders to make it an offence to cycle on a footpath, otherwise it would not be so.
The Viscount of FalklandMy Lords, I can confirm this as an occasional cyclist, but some days it is like the "wild west" out in the streets of London. Confrontations between cyclists and other road users have become unacceptable. Since the Government so positively recommended cycling, the number of cyclists in London has decreased because cyclists who behave themselves are frighted to go on the streets in case they become involved in confrontations. Will the Minister ensure that the law is enforced because that will result in more people cycling and the Government's encouragement will be responded to?
§ Viscount GoschenMy Lords, the noble Viscount is right about his reference to the government policy on cycling. It is good for those who seek to cycle. It is an environmentally friendly option, which we have encouraged. Nonetheless, cyclists will be taking advantage of the increased provision of cycle lanes. Separating cyclists from motorised road users is of advantage. I hope that that will contribute to reducing the noble Viscount's frustration.
§ Lord FinsbergMy Lords, does my noble friend agree that this is a problem that has now grown out of all recognition? It is broken frequently by cycle couriers. They cycle the wrong way up one-way streets in front of policemen who take no notice. Will he ask his right honourable friend the Home Secretary to talk to the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis to try to obtain some action instead of the bland statements we have been receiving?
§ Viscount GoschenI have already said that I will refer the feeling of the House to my right honourable friend. Couriers provide a valuable service, and with the industry we have provided a code of practice for cyclists, with which it agrees fully.
§ Lord Clinton-DavisMy Lords, does the Minister acknowledge that proper transport planning requires that greater priority should be given to cyclists and 1366 pedestrians in terms of the provision that is made for them? Adding to those who have exercised considerable anxiety about the reticence of the police when dealing with dangerous and illegal practices, does the Minister agree that it is not just the use of pavements, there is a failure to provide proper lighting on bicycles at night? That is frequently the case at present. Is there not also another practice which is becoming increasingly dangerous? That is, recumbent-type machines upon which cyclists appear to be riding on their backs while going along the streets. I cannot think that that is in the best interests of safety.
§ Viscount GoschenMy Lords, the noble Lord is right to highlight the variety of offences that are committed. There is a variety of offences, such as dangerous and careless cycling, to cope with such circumstances.
§ Lord MolloyMy Lords—
Viscount CranborneMy Lords, I am aware of two things, and, as always, I am very much in your Lordships' hands. This is the season of good will. The noble Lord, Lord Molloy, has been trying to get in from the very beginning of this Question. I wonder whether your Lordships might feel that he should ask the last question on this subject.
§ Lord MolloyMy Lords, I shall be as brief as I can. Is the Minister aware that in the Greenford area of Middlesex it is not just bicycles that travel on the pavements but that some cars and lorries do? They park also on the yellow lines on the grounds that if they are on the pavement and not on the yellow line, they are not committing a crime. The serious point is that the local authority (Ealing Borough Council) has prohibited the police from having any authority in these matters. It has appointed a private firm which has visited these sites twice in the past four months. It is a lawless situation. Will the Minister look at this matter and contact the local authority before I have to come here and say that something must now be done because someone, possibly a child crossing to go to school, has been killed?
§ Viscount GoschenMy Lords, we are faced with a variety of road traffic offences, and the police do a splendid job in coping with them.