HL Deb 03 May 1977 vol 382 cc893-4

2.49 p.m.

The Earl of CORK and ORRERY

My Lords, I beg leave to ask the Question which stands in my name on the Order Paper.

The Question was as follows:

To ask Her Majesty's Government whether they will release any statistics concerning "near-miss" reports by aircraft pilots; and if not, why not.

Lord ORAM

My Lords, this is a matter for the Civil Aviation Authority which, through the National Air Traffic Services, is responsible for the publication of such statistics. I am advised by the Chairman of the Authority that figures for air-miss reports involving civil aircraft in United Kingdom airspace over a 10-year period have up to now been published by the CAA in its Annual Survey of Accidents. In future these statistics will also be included in the Authority's annual report and accounts.

The Earl of CORK and ORRERY

My Lords, I am much obliged to the noble Lord for that Answer which, to tell the truth, is more satisfactory than I expected. Can he say what exactly is the definition of "a near-miss"?

Lord ORAM

My Lords, I am afraid that I would have to ask the noble Lord for notice of that question. It would be important that the answer should be accurate.

The Earl of KIMBERLEY

My Lords, can the Minister say why military aircraft are not included in the list of "near-misses" but only civil aircraft as he said in his Answer?

Lord ORAM

My Lords, I imagine that there might well be security considerations, but I shall inquire on this statistical point.

Lord TREFGARNE

My Lords, is it not the case that these accident reports, including as they do information from incidents provided by amateur pilots, are sometimes unreliable and that the statistics often show, or report, air-misses which on investigation prove to be nothing of the sort, and they may therefore generate unnecessary alarm and despondency?

Lord ORAM

My Lords, I think it is true that more reports come in than are justified in terms of the seriousness of the incidents, but each report is carefully considered by an expert committee and the statistics which are published cover those cases where there has been a considerable element of risk.

The Earl of CORK and ORRERY

My Lords, may I ask the noble Lord whether he considers that my supplementary question about the definition of "a near-miss" does not arise from my original Question and therefore that he requires further notice, or would he be kind enough to let me know on this Question?

Lord ORAM

No, my Lords; I was not implying that it did not arise; it was just that the noble Earl's original Question did not indicate more than a general interest in the publication of statistics. I had not the particular information, and I regarded it as most important on such a technical question that I should give the exact information. I shall write to the noble Earl.