HL Deb 28 May 1970 vol 310 cc1182-4

[Nos. 6 and 7.] Clause 11. page 11, line 42, leave out subsection (1) and insert— (1) Where on an application made under this section in relation to an order to which this section applies it appears to the court that by reason of—

  1. (a) a change in the circumstances of the person entitled to, or liable to make, payments under the order since the order was made, or
  2. (b) the changed circumstances resulting from the death of the person so liable,
the amount received by the person entitled to payments under the order in respect of a period after those circumstances changed or after the death of the person liable to make payments under the order, as the case may be, exceeds the amount which the person so liable or his or her personal representatives should have been required to pay, the court may order the respondent to the application to pay to the applicant such sum, not exceeding the amount of the excess, as the court thinks just. This section applies to an order made by virtue of section 1, 2(1)(a) or (b). 3(2)(a) or (b), 6(5) or 6(6)(a), (b), (d) or (e) of this Act.

Ciause11, page 12, line 15, leave out subsection (2) and insert— (2) An application under this section may be made by the person liable to make payments under an order to which this section applies or his or her personal representatives and may be made against the person entitled to payments under the order or her or his personal representatives. (3) An application under this section may be made in proceedings in the High Court or a county court for—

  1. (a) the variation or discharge of the order to which this section applies, or
  2. (b) leave to enforce, or the enforcement of, the payment of arrears under that order;
but except as aforesaid such an application shall be made to a county court and accordingly references in this section to the court are references to the High Court or a county court, as the circumstances require. (4)An order under this section for the payment of any sum may provide for the payment of that sum by instalments of such amount as may be specified in the Order.

THE LORD CHANCELLOR

My Lords, perhaps I may deal also with Amendment No. 7 and speak also to Amendment No. 40, which is consequential. I beg to move that this House doth agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 6 and 7. The drafting of Clause 11 was found to have a number of defects so it was redrafted, and these linked Amendments have a dual effect. In the first place, they confine Clause 11 to the recovery of excess payments made under an order which ought previously to be reduced by reason of a change of circumstances and, secondly, they enable an application for this purpose to be made notwithstanding that the order in question has already ceased to have effect. There are cases in which such an application should be possible. Amendment No. 40 is consequential. I beg to move.

Moved, That this House doth agree with the Commons in the said Amendments.—(The Lord Chancellor.)

VISCOUNT COLVILLE OF CULROSS

My Lords, it is worth saying one word on this, because the noble and learned Lord will probably agree that two new clauses, Amendments Nos. 18 and 22, are, as it were, the other half of these Amendments, and they raise the same point. It may be that we can expedite matters even further if we take that into account when we consider those Amendments.

On Question, Motion agreed to.