HL Deb 07 July 1932 vol 85 cc707-8

Page 30, line 26, after ("homes") insert ("Provided that, where a place or places of detention have been provided under the principal Act Which are suitable for use as remand homes, and so long as such place or places are adequately maintained, they shall be deemed to be remand homes and there shall be no obligation on any council to provide further or additional accommodation in pursuance of this section.")

The Commons disagree to the above Amendment for the following Reason:

Because the standard required in, the case of remand homes will not differ from that required in the case of existing places of detention and because councils may be trusted, without any direction, to arrange for the continual use of such places wherever possible.

LORD DANESFORT

My Lords, in the Commons they disagreed with our Amendment, and I have to propose that we do not insist upon it, but that we insert the Amendment in lieu thereof which is printed on the Paper. That Amendment, with certain small verbal alterations—namely, substituting "area" for the words "county or borough" in two places, for the purpose of meeting the case of Scotland—is as follows: (5) Nothing in this section shall be construed as requiring a council to provide additional remand homes for their area so long as any places of detention provided under the principal Act and available for use by the council as remand homes remain suitable for that purpose and sufficient for the needs of the area. I understand that the Government are willing to accept this alternative proposal, and I therefore do not think it necessary to add any words to commend it.

VISCOUNT SNOWDEN

I am prepared to accept the substituted Amendment, and I therefore have to move that this House doth not insist upon its Amendment.

Moved, That this House doth not insist upon the said Amendment, but proposes an Amendment in lieu thereof.— (Viscount Snowden.)

Moved, That in lieu thereof the following Amendment be made:— Page 31, line 3, at end, insert: ("(5) Nothing in this section shall be construed as requiring a council to provide additional remand homes for their area so long as any places of detention provided under the principal Act and available for use by the council as remand homes remain suitable for that purpose and sufficient for the needs of the area.")—(Lord Danesfort.)