HL Deb 13 August 1913 vol 14 cc1920-5

Order of the Day for the House to be put into Committee, read.

Moved, That the House do now resolve itself into Committee.—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Motion agreed to.

House in Committee accordingly.

[The EARL OF DONOUGHMORE in the Chair.]

Clauses 1 to 4 agreed to.

Clause 5:

Amendment moved— Page 3, line 19, after ("of") insert ("this Part of").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 5, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 6 and 7 agreed to.

Clause 8:

LORD STRACHIE

The House will remember that Clause 8 deals with arrears. My Amendment provides a third method of meeting those arrears. In addition to suspension and reduction it also gives power of postponement.

Amendment moved— Page 4, line 22, leave out ("suspension or reduction") and insert ("reduction, postponement or suspension").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Amendment moved— Page 4, line 23, after ("reduction") insert ("postponement").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Amendment moved— Page 4, lines 26 and 27, leave out ("suspension and reduction") and insert ("reduction, postponement and suspension").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 8, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 9 to 11 agreed to.

Clause 12:

LORD STRACHIE

This Amendment is not on the Paper. It is merely to correct a printer's error.

Amendment moved— Page 6, line 10, after ("eight") insert ("of the principal Act").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 12, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 13 agreed to.

Clause 14:

Amendment moved— Page 7, line 9, leave out ("of an insured person").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Amendment moved— Page 7, line 10, after ("widow") insert ("of an insured person").—(Lord Strachie.)

THE EARL OF SELBORNE

Would the noble Lord read the clause as it will now run?

LORD STRACHIE

It now runs, "Where the woman who is an employed contributor is the wife, or if the child is a posthumous child the widow, of an insured person."

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

THE EARL OF SELBORNE

I wish to thank the Government for the course they have taken with respect to this clause. I know it has been rather a contentious one, but the course they have chosen to adopt in agreeing to the Amendments made from the two sides in the House of Commons has, I think, given general satisfaction.

Clause 14, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 15:

Amendment moved— Page 8, line 13, leave out ("first proviso") and insert ("proviso (i)").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 15, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 16:

Amendment moved— Page 9, line 17, leave out ("for the purposes aforesaid") and insert ("in the exercise of their powers under this proviso").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 16, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 17:

Amendment moved— Page 11, line 4, after ("amendment") insert ("if").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 17, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 18:

Amendment moved— Page 11, line 18, after ("benefits") insert ("and are not special voluntary contributors").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 18, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 19:

Amendments moved—

Page 11, line 32, leave out ("their") and insert ("the")

Page 11, line 33, after ("collection") insert ("of such contributions").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendments agreed to.

Clause 19, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 20 to 22 agreed to.

Clause 23:

Amendment moved— Page 13, line 12, leave out ("such person") and insert ("the master, seaman, or apprentice").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 23, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 24 to 28 agreed to.

Clause 29:

Amendment moved—

Clause 29, page 15, line 17, after ("committee") insert the following new subsection: (4) This section shall come into operation on the passing of this Act."—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 29, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 30:

Amendment moved— Page 15, line 22, leave out ("by such name respectively").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 30, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 31 to 33 agreed to.

Clause 34:

Amendment moved— Page 17, line 22, leave out ("exchanges") and insert ("takes in exchange").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 34, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 35 agreed to.

Clause 36:

LORD STRACHIE

As my Amendment stands on the Paper it is, after "Act," to insert "and documents made thereunder." This is merely a drafting Amendment, and I want to alter the word "made" to "issued," so that it will read "and documents issued thereunder."

Amendment moved— Page 18, line 11, after ("Act") insert ("and documents issued thereunder").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 36, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 37 and 38 agreed to.

Clause 39:

LORD STRACHIE

As the clause now stands it only refers to a county council, and the object of the Amendment is to make it refer to a county borough council as well.

Amendment moved— Page 18, line 28, after ("council") insert ("or county borough council").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 39, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 40:

Amendment moved— Page 18, line 41, after ("Act") insert ("or this Act").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 40, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 41:

Amendment moved— Page 19, line 33, leave out ("the principal") and insert ("this").—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Clause 41, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 42 agreed to.

Clause 43:

Amendments moved—

Page 21, line 4, after ("shall") insert ("save as otherwise expressly provided") and leave out ("such") and insert ("the first day of September nineteen hundred and thirteen or such later")

Page 21, line 5, leave out ("Insurance Commissioners") and insert ("Joint Committee")

Page 21, line 13, after subsection (3) insert as a new subsection: (4) The provisions of the principal Act mentioned in the Third Schedule to this Act are hereby repealed."—(Lord Strachie.)

On Question, Amendments agreed to.

Clause 43, as amended, agreed to.

First Schedule:

LORD STRACHIE

These Amendments to the First Schedule are consequential. I take the opportunity of thanking the noble Earl opposite for what he has said as regards this question of maternity benefit.

Amendments moved—

First Schedule, page 23, line 6, leave out from the second ("for") to ("transferred") in line 8, and insert ("continuing the right to payment of maternity benefit out of that fund until the man is")

First Schedule, page 23, line 9, leave out ("until he")

First Schedule, page 23, line 13, after ("sums") insert ("required").—(Lord strachie.)

On Question, Amendments agreed to.

First Schedule, as amended, agreed to.

Second Schedule agreed to.

Amendment moved—

Page 23, line 42, after the Second Schedule insert as a new schedule: