HC Deb 08 November 1920 vol 134 cc891-941

Order for Consideration, as amended, read.

4.0 P.M.

Sir LAMING WORTHINGTON-EVANS (Minister without Portfolio)

I beg to move, "That the Bill be recommitted to a Committee of the Whole House in respect of the Amendments and the new Clause standing in the names of Sir Laming Worthington-Evans and Mr. Fisher."

There was an undertaking given in the course of the Committee stage that the Bill would be recommitted for the purposes of certain Clauses. Consequently, this Motion has been put down to recommit the Bill with regard to certain Amendments and new Clauses standing in the names of my right hon. Friend the Minister of Education and myself.

Sir F. BANBURY

rose

Mr. SPEAKER

Does the right hon. Gentleman wish to oppose the Motion?

Sir F. BANBURY

I wish to move an Amendment.

Mr. SPEAKER

The right hon. Gentleman cannot move an Amendment; he may oppose in a brief speech, but he cannot do more.

Sir F. BANBURY

I oppose this Motion, because I think the Bill should be recommitted to include, not only the Amendments standing in the names of the two right hon. Gentlemen, but also those standing in the name of the hon. Gentleman the Member for York (Sir J. Butcher). They are important Amendments, dealing with finance, and, as they have not been included, I should like to oppose the re-committal of the Bill.

Question put, "That the Bill be recommitted to a Committee of the Whole House in respect of the Amendments and the new Clause standing in the names of Sir Laming Worthington-Evans and Mr. Fisher."

The House divided: Ayes, 197; Noes, 27.

Division No. 353.] AYES. [4.5 p.m.
Adair, Rear-Admiral Thomas B. S. Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender Hambro, Captain Angus Valdemar
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. C. Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Harmsworth, C. B. (Bedford, Luton)
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Cohen, Major J. Brunel Henry, Denis S. (Londonderry, S.)
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Collins, Sir G. P. (Greenock) Hewart, Rt. Hon. Sir Gordon
Allen, Lieut.-Colonel William James Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale Higham, Charles Frederick
Archdale, Edward Mervyn Coote, Colin Reith (Isle of Ely) Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank
Atkey, A. R. Coote, William (Tyrone, South) Hills, Major John Waller
Bagley, Captain E. Ashton Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Hinds, John
Baird, Sir John Lawrence Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) Hoare, Lieut. Colonel Sir S. J. G.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Croft, Lieut.-Colonel Henry Page Hope, James F. (Sheffield, Central)
Barnett, Major R. W. Curzon, Commander Viscount Hope, Lt.-Col. Sir J. A. (Midlothian)
Barrand, A. R, Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan) Hopkins, John W. W.
Barrie, Charles Coupar Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley)
Beauchamp, Sir Edward Denniss, Edmund R. B. (Oldham) Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead)
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Dockrell, Sir Maurice Hunter, General Sir A. (Lancaster)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish Donald, Thompson Hurd, Percy A.
Betterton, Henry B. Doyle, N. Grattan Hurst, Lieut.-Colonel Gerald B.
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Duncannon, Viscount James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert
Bird, Sir A. (Wolverhampton, West) Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Jellett, William Morgan
Borwick, Major G. O. Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon) Jesson, C.
Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith Edwards, Hugh (Glam., Neath) Jodrell, Neville Paul
Bowles, Colonel H. F. Eyres-Monsell, Commander B. M. Johnstone, Joseph
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Falle, Major Sir Bertram G. Jones, J. T. (Carmarthen, Llanelly)
Brassey, Major H. L. C. Fell, Sir Arthur Joynson-Hicks, Sir William
Breese, Major Charles E. Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Kellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. George
Bridgeman, William Clive Ford, Patrick Johnston King, Captain Henry Douglas
Briggs, Harold Forestier-Walker, L. Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement
Brittain, Sir Harry Forrest, Walter Lewis, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Univ., Wales)
Brown, T. W. (Down, North) Fraser, Major Sir Keith Lewis, T. A. (Glam., Pontypridd)
Buchanan, Lieut.-Colonel A. L. H. Ganzoni, Captain Francis John C. Lindsay, William Arthur
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Gardiner, James Lloyd-Greame, Major Sir P.
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Gibbs, Colonel George Abraham Lonsdale, James Rolston
Burn, Col. C. R. (Devon, Torquay) Goff, Sir R. Park Lorden, John William
Burn, T. H. (Belfast, St. Anne's) Goulding, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward A. Lowe, Sir Francis William
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. Grant, James A. Lyle-Samuel, Alexander
Carr, W. Theodore Green, Joseph F. (Leicester, W.) Lynn, R. J.
Casey, T. W. Greenwood, Colonel Sir Hamar M'Donald, Dr. Bouverie F. P.
Cautley, Henry S. Greig, Colonel James William Macdonald, Rt. Hon. John Murray
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A.(Birm.,W.) Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. M'Guffin, Samuel
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Gwynne, Rupert S. M'Lean, Lieut.-Col. Charles W. W.
M'Micking, Major Gilbert Pratt, John William Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Pretyman, Rt. Hon. Ernest G. Thorpe, Captain John Henry
M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) Purchase, H. G. Tickler, Thomas George
Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Raper, A. Baldwin Tryon, Major George Clement
Macquisten, F. A. Rees, Sir J. D. (Nottingham, East) Waddington, R.
Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) Reid, D. D. Walters, Rt. Hon. Sir John Tudor
Marriott, John Arthur Ransome Remer, J. R. Ward, Col. J. (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Mildmay, Colonel Rt. Hon. F. B. Roberts, Sir S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) Warren, Lieut.-Col. Sir Alfred H.
Moles, Thomas Roundell, Colonel R. F. Wason, John Cathcart
Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred M. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Watson, Captain John Bertrand
Morison, Rt. Hon. Thomas Brash Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Norwood) Whitla, Sir William
Morris, Richard Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D Williams, Lt.-Com. C. (Tavistock)
Morrison, Hugh Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton) Williamson, Rt. Hon. Sir Archibald
Mosley, Oswald Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock) Wilson, Daniel M. (Down, West)
Munro, Rt. Hon. Robert Shaw, William T. (Forfar) Wilson, Colonel Leslie O. (Reading)
Murray, Lieut.-Colonel A. (Aberdeen) Simm, M. T. Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, West)
Neal, Arthur Sprot, Colonel Sir Alexander Wood, Major S. Hill- (High Peak)
Nicholl, Commander Sir Edward Stevens Marshall Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
O'Neill, Major Hon. Robert W. H. Sturrock, J. Leng Yate, Colonel Charles Edward
Ormsby-Gore, Captain Hon. W. Sugden, W. H. Young, Lieut.-Com. E. H. (Norwich)
Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry Sutherland, Sir William Young, W. (Perth & Kinross, Perth)
Pearce, Sir William Taylor, J. Younger, Sir George
Pennefather, De Fonblanque Terrell, George (Wilts, Chippenham)
Philipps, Gen. Sir I. (Southampton) Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Pinkham, Lieut.-Colonel Charles Thomas, Sir Robert J. (Wrexham) Lord E. Talbot and Captain Guest.
Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Thomas-Stanford, Charles
NOES.
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) Royce, William Stapleton
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Hayward, Major Evan Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Hogge, James Myles Swan, J. E.
Briant, Frank Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Cape, Thomas Kenyon, Barnet Waterson, A. E.
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Morgan, Major D. Watts White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Edwards, G. (Norfolk, South) Murray, Dr. D. (Inverness & Ross) Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Entwistle, Major C.F. Myers, Thomas
Galbraith, Samuel Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Glanville, Harold James Robertson, John Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy and
Mr. Mills

Bill accordingly considered in Committee.

[Mr. WHITLEY in the Chair.]

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