HC Deb 29 October 1912 vol 43 cc211-4
4. Mr. WHITEHOUSE

asked if any representation on behalf of Germany has been made to the Foreign Office with reference to Lord Roberts's speech on the 22nd October?

Sir E. GREY

No representation has been made to us on behalf of Germany, and I should very much deprecate any suggestion that either Government should make official representations to the other about unwise or provocative speeches made in either Germany or Great Britain by persons who are no; in a position to control the policy of their respective Governments.

Mr. SWIFT MacNEILL

Having regard to the fact that Earl Roberts was Ambassador Extraordinary to tho Court of Berlin to announce the death of the late King and tho accession of the present one, and that the very highest distinction of the German Empire, the Order of the Black Eagle was conferred on him, should not some representation be made to the German Empire that his speech is not in accordance with—

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Gentleman has just said that it is undesirable.

20. Mr. WHITEHOUSE

asked the Secretary for War if his attention has been called to a speech delivered by Lord Roberts on 22nd October, in which he said that it is the present policy of Germany to attack this country as soon as her preparations are complete; and whether, in view of the friction such language creates between this country and Germany, he will take steps to prevent a representative of the British Army using such language concerning a friendly Power?

Mr. SWIFT MacNEILL

I wish to ask the right hon. Gentleman a question of which I have given him private notice: Whether ha is aware that on 16th May, 1889, attention was directed by means of a question in the House, to remarks of a political character made by Viscount Wolseley in a speech delivered at Oxford in his private and not in his official capacity, and that Mr. Edward Stanhope, who was then Secretary for War in the Unionist Administration, stated that he was unable to defend Lord Wolseley's language and had so informed him; and whether a similar course has been or will be taken on this occasion in regard to the speech of Lord Roberts respecting a power on terms of amity with this country?

Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

On a point of Order. Am I right in saying that questions of which private notice has been given are usually asked at the end of questions on the Paper?

Mr. SPEAKER

This is supposed to arise out of the question on the Paper.

The SECRETARY of STATE for WAR (Colonel Seely)

I have not received the question of the hon. Gentleman (Mr. Swift MacNeill).

Mr. SWIFT MacNEILL

I sent a special messenger.

Colonel SEELY

I spend a great deal of my time at the War Office—out of the House.

Mr. SWIFT MacNEILL

I sent it to the War Office.

Colonel SEELY

I cannot verify the. accuracy or inaccuracy of the hon. Gentleman's statement. I do not think I can usefully add anything to the statement that has just been made by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.

Mr. SWIFT MacNEILL

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that Lord Roberts, who made these remarks, is still a high official of the British Army—a Field Marshal—and does he think those remarks are consistent, having regard to the Wolseley precedent?

Mr. PIRIE

Does the right hon. Gentleman acquiesce in acknowledging that such speeches are subversive of discipline, and set the worst example possible to the Army, and will he bring to the notice of the Field Marshal the stricture passed by the Secretary for Foreign Affairs in the answer he has just given.

Colonel SEELY

As I have just said, I do not think I can usefully add anything to the statement of my right hon. Friend, and I have no doubt whatever that the answer he has given will receive the fullest publicity, and will be read by all concerned.

Mr. PIRIE

Is it not the right hon. Gentleman's duty as Minister to take official notice of this gross breach of discipline, and will he, as Minister, bring it to the notice of Lord Roberts?

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Member is only asking the same question, to which a reply has already been given.

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