HC Deb 14 November 1950 vol 480 cc1544-5
29. Major Guy Lloyd

asked the Minister of National Insurance whether she has received the letter from the hon. and gallant Member for Renfrew, Eastern, enclosing statements from doctors about dishonest attempts to obtain sickness certificates from them, for which she asked on 24th October; and what action she intends to take to put an end to these practices.

Dr. Summerskill

I have received the hon. and gallant Member's letter of 9th November enclosing four letters written to him after I had answered his Question on 24th October. I am giving these letters my attention, and am consulting my right hon. Friends.

Major Lloyd

Does the right hon. Lady admit, in view of the fact that there are more than 900,000 people absent from work through sickness every day in this country, that when I asked her a Question she challenged me to produce even three letters from doctors to justify my suggestion, and that I not only gave her more than three but gave her quotations from others as well? Would it not be as well——

Mr. Speaker

That is not a question; it is a statement.

Major Lloyd

Would not the right hon. Lady withdraw her suggestion?

Dr. Summerskill

I will certainly not withdraw it, for this reason: The Question asked me was on 24th October, in which the hon. and gallant Gentleman implied that I had information which I was not disclosing.

Major Lloyd

I did not.

Dr. Summerskill

I therefore challenged the hon. and gallant Gentleman to produce the information he had. That was on the 24th October, and on the 25th the Press gave wide publicity to this matter. Since then—and not before the 24th—four doctors out of many thousands have come to the help of the hon. and gallant Gentleman, and he has sent me their letters.

Hon. Members

Withdraw.

Major Lloyd

On a point of order. The right hon. Lady has entirely misinterpreted the original Question. My original Question asked her if she was aware——

Hon. Members

Speech.

Mr. Speaker

This is not the time for personal statements.

Major Lloyd

On a point of order.

Mr. Speaker

We will go to the next Question.

Major Lloyd rose

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Mr. Speaker

The hon. and gallant Gentleman will now resume his seat.

Major Lloyd

On a point of order.

Mr. Speaker

The hon. and gallant Gentleman will now resume his seat. He will obey the Speaker.

Earl Winterton

Is it not in order, Mr. Speaker, for a questioner to give notice at the end of his Question, when he is dissatisfied with an answer, that he wishes to raise the matter on the Adjournment? That, I think, was what my hon. and gallant Friend was trying to do.

Mr. Speaker

The hon. and gallant Member is entitled to do that.

Major Lloyd

I should like to have been entitled to do more. In view of the grossly inaccurate statement and misrepresentation of the right hon. Lady—doubtless by accident, as I respectfully say—I beg to give notice that I will raise the matter on the Adjournment.