HC Deb 06 June 1939 vol 348 cc211-5
Mr. Arthur Greenwood

May I ask the Prime Minister how far it is proposed to proceed to-day in the event of the Motion for the suspension of the Eleven o'Clock Rule being carried?

The Prime Minister

It is proposed to suspend the Eleven o'Clock Rule in order to obtain the business up to and including the fifth Order on the Paper. We also desire to consider the Government of India Order and the Committee stage of the Money Resolution for the Civil Defence Bill. Apart from the Unemployment Insurance Bill and the Wheat (Amendment) Bill, the business which I have mentioned is, I think, of a minor character, and will not raise any highly controversial points.

Mr. Greenwood

If the right hon. Gentleman looks at the Order Paper, he will see that there is a considerable number of Amendments on the first two Orders, some of them points of substance, and on the second Motion after the fifth Order there may be some elucidation required, which may lead to some little debate. It may mean rather a late sitting.

The Prime Minister

I can only say that the House has a very big programme before it this Session, and it is necessary to make some progress. I am hopeful that it may not be a late sitting.

Mr. Wedgwood Benn

What Minister will be in charge of the Civil Defence [Money] [No. 2] Resolution?

The Prime Minister

The Lord Privy Seal.

Mr. Benn

Cannot we have the Home Secretary, who is the only Minister, so far as I know, who is able to explain the financial implications?

The Prime Minister

Yes, Sir, my right hon. Friend will be here.

Mr. Greenwood

While not desiring to be unnecessarily fractious, might I ask whether, in the event of the House taking more time than the Prime Minister expects on the first and second Orders, he will consider postponing the last business to another day if it looks as though it will be very late?

The Prime Minister

I can give no assurance at this stage, but I will see how we get on.

Mr. Thorne

The Prime Minister says that there is a considerable programme before us this Session. Does he mean that this will be the last Session of this Parliament?

Motion made, and Question put,

"That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)"—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 226; Noes, 125.

Division No. 156.] AYES. [3.33 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lt.-Col. G. J. Boulton, W. W. Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n)
Adams, S. V. T. (Leeds, W.) Boyes, H. Laslie Channon, H.
Agnew, Lieut.-Comdr. P. G. Bracken, B. Chapman, A. (Ruthorglen)
Albery, Sir Irving Braithwaite, J. Gurney (Holderness) Chapman, Sir S. (Edinburgh, S.)
Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.) Brass, Sir W. Clarke, Colonel R. S. (E. Grinstead)
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Briscoe, Capt. R. G. Cobb, Captain E. C. (Preston)
Apsley, Lord Brooklebank, Sir Edmund Colfox, Major W. P.
Assheton, R. Brooke, H. (Lewisham, W.) Colville, Rt. Hon. John
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Simon) Brown, Rt. Hon. E. (Leith) Conant, Captain R. J. E.
Baillie, Sir A. W. M. Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury) Cook, Sir T. R. A. M. (Norfolk, N.)
Balfour, Capt. H. H. (Isle of Thanet) Browne, A. C. (Belfast, W.) Cooper, Rt. Hn. T. M. (E'nburgh, W.)
Balniel, Lord Bull, B. B. Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L.
Barrle, Sir C. C. Bullock, Capt. M. Cox, H. B. Trever
Baxter, A. Beverley Burgin, Rt. Hon. E. L. Croft, Brig.-Gen. Sir H. Page
Beauchamp, Sir B. C. Burten, Col. H. W. Crookshank, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. F. C.
Bennett, Sir E. N. Butcher, H. W. Cross, R. H.
Bernays, R. H. Butler, Rt. Hon. R. A. Crossley, A. C.
Blair, Sir R. Campbell, Sir E. T. Crowder, J. F. E.
Boothby, R. J. G. Cartland, J. R. H. Cruddas, Col. B.
Bottom, A. C. Cary, R. A. Davison, Sir W. H.
De la Bère, R. Hulbert, Squadron-Leader N. J. Ramsden, Sir E.
Denman, Hon. R. D. Hume, Sir G. H. Rankin, Sir R.
Denville, Alfred Hunloke, H. P. Rathbone, J. R. (Bodmin)
Doland, G. F. Hunter, T. Rawson, Sir Cooper
Donner, P. W. Hurd, Sir P. A. Reed, A. C. (Exeter)
Dorman-Smith, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir R. H. James, Wing-Commander A. W. H. Read, Sir H. S. (Aylesbury)
Duckworth, Arthur (Shrewsbury) Jennings, R. Reid, J. S. C. (Hillhead)
Duggan, H. J. Jones, Sir H. Haydn (Merloneth) Reid, W. Allan (Derby)
Duncan, J. A. L. Jones, L. (Swansea W.) Rickards, G. W. (Skipton)
Dunglass, Lord Keeling, E. H. Robinson, J. R. (Blackpool)
Eden, Rt. Hon. A. Kerr, Colonel C. I. (Montrose) Rosbotham, Sir T.
Edmondson, Major Sir J. Kerr, H. W. (Oldham) Ross, Major Sir R. D. (Londonderry)
Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. Kerr, J. Graham (Scottish Univs.) Ross Taylor, W. (Woodbridge)
Ellis, Sir G. Knox, Major-General, Sir A. W. F. Rowlands, G.
Elliston, Capt. G. S. Lancaster, Captain C. G. Royds, Admiral Sir P. M. R.
Emrys-Evans, P. V. Latham, Sir P. Russell, Sir Alexander
Errington, E. Lees-Jones, J. Russell, R. J. (Eddisbury)
Fildes, Sir H. Leighton, Major B. E. P. Sandeman, Sir N. S.
Findlay, Sir E. Lennox-Boyd, A. T. L. Scott, Lord William
Flaming, E. L. Levy, T. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A.
Fox, Sir G. W. G. Liddall, W. S. Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen)
Furness, S. N. Lipson, D. L. Smithers, Sir W.
Gluckstein, L. H. Lloyd, G. W. Snadden, W. McN.
Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C. Mabane, W. (Huddersfield) Somerset, T.
Goldie, N. B. McKie, J. H. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Grant-Ferris, Flight-Lieutenant R. Maclay, Hon. J. P. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'm'ld)
Granville, E. L. Macmillan, H. (Stockton-on-Tees) Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Macnamara, Lieut.-Colonel J. R. J. Strickland, Captain W. F.
Gretton, Col. Rt. Hon. J. Magnay, T. Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Gridley, Sir A. B. Maitland, Sir Adam Suater, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F
Grigg, Sir E. W. M. Makins, Brigadier-General Sir Ernest Tate, Mavis, C.
Grimston, R. V. Manningham-Buller, Sir M Taylor, C. S. (Eastbourne)
Guest, Hon. I. (Brecon and Radnor) Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Taylor, Vice-Adm. E. A. (Padd., S.)
Guinness, T. L. E. B. Markham, S. F. Thomas, J. P. L
Gunston, Capt. Sir D. W. Maxwell, Hon. S. A. Thomson, Sir J. D. W.
Hacking, Rt. Hon. Sir D. H. Meller, Sir R. J. (Miteham) Thornton-Kemsley, C. N.
Hambro, A. V. Mellor, Sir J. S. P. (Tamworth) Touche, G. C.
Hammersley, S. S. Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.) Tree, A. R. L. F.
Hannah, I. C. Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Tryon, Major Rt. Hon. G. C.
Hannon, Sir P. J. H. Moore, Lieut.-Col. Sir T. C. R. Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Harbord, A. Morgan, R. H. (Worcester, Stourbridge) Walface, Capt. Rt. Hon. Euan
Harvey, T. E. (Eng. Univ's.) Morris-Jones, Sir Henry Wardlaw-Milne, Sir J. S.
Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univ's.) Warrender, Sir V.
Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. Neven-Spence, Major B. H. H. Waterhouse, Captain C.
Hely-Hutchinson, M. R. Nicholson, G. (Farnham) Watt, Lt.-Col. G. S. Harvle
Hepworth, J. Nicolson, Hon. H. G. Walls, Sir Sydney
Herbert, Lt.-Col. J. A. (Monmouth) O'Connor, Sir Terence J. Wickham, Lt.-Col. E. T. R.
Higgs, W. F. O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Hoare, Rt. Hon. Sir S. Orr-Ewing, I. L. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel G.
Holdsworth, H. Palmer, G. E. H. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Hopkinson, A. Patrick, C. M. Wise, A. R.
Hore-Bellsha, Rt. Hon. L. Peake, O. Womersley, Sir W. J.
Horsbrugh, Florence Perkins, W. R. D. Wood, Hon. C. I. C.
Howitt, Dr. A. B. Petherick, M. Young, A. S. L. (Partick)
Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.) Pilkington, R.
Hudson, Rt. Hon. R. S. (Southport) Radford, E. A. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Captain Dugdale and Mr. Munro.
NOES.
Acland, R. T. D. (Barnstaple) Ede, J. C. Jenkins, Sir W. (Neath)
Adamson, Jennie L. (Dartford) Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwellty) John, W.
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (H'lsbr.) Evans, D. O. (Cardigan) Jones, A. C. (Shipley)
Ammon, C. G. Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H. Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T.
Anderson, F. (Whitehaven) Foot, D. M. Kirby, B. V.
Banfield, J. W. Frankel, D. Kirkwood, D.
Barnes, A. J. Gallacher, W. Lansbury, Rt. Hon. G.
Batey, J. Gardner, B. W. Lawson, J. J.
Ballenger, F. J. Garro Jones, G. M. Leach, W.
Benn, Rt. Hon. W. W. Gibson, R. (Greenock) Lee, F.
Benson, G. Green, W. H. (Deptford) Leonard, W.
Bevan, A. Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. Leslie, J. R.
Broad, F. A. Grenfell, D. R. Logan, D. G.
Brown, C. (Mansfield) Griffith, F. Kingsley (M'ddl'sbro, W.) Macdonald, G. (Ince)
Burke, W. A. Griffiths, G. A. (Homsworth) McEntee, V. La T.
Cape, T. Griffiths, J. (Llanelly) McGovern, J.
Cluse, W. S. Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) MacLaren, A.
Cooks, F. S. Harris, Sir P. A. Maclean, N.
Collindridge, F. Hayday, A. Mainwaring, W. H.
Daggar, G. Henderson, J. (Ardwisk) Mander, G. le M.
Davidson, J. J. (Maryhill) Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Marshall, F.
Davies, R. J. (Westhoughton) Hieks, E. G. Maxton, J.
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) Hills, A. (Pontefract) Messer, F.
Day. H Jagger, J. Montague, F.
Dunn, E. (Rother Valley) Jenkins, A. (Pontypool) Morgan, J. (York, W.R., Doncaster)
Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Sexton. T. M. Viant, S. P.
Muff, C. Shinwell, E. Watkins, F. C.
Noel-Baker, P. J. Silverman, S. S. Watson, W. McL.
Owen, Major G. Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (C'thn's Welsh, J. C.
Paling, W. Smith, Ben (Rotharhithe) Westwood, J.
Parkinson, J. A. Smith, E. (Stoke) White, H. Graham
Pearson, A. Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees- (K'ly) Whiteley, W. (Blaydon)
Pethick-Lawrence, Rt. Hon. E. W. Smith, T. (Normanton) Wilkinson, Elian
Poole, C. C. Sorensen, R. W. Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Quibell, D. J. K. Stephen, C. Williams, T. (Don Valley)
Richards, R. (Wrexham) Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng) Wilson, C. H. (Atteraliffe)
Ridley, G. Stokes, R. R. Windsor, W. (Hull, C.)
Riley, B. Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.) Woods, G. S. (Finsbury)
Ritson, J. Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth) Young, Sir R. (Newton)
Robinson, W. A. (St. Helens) Thorne, W.
Rothschild, J. A. de Thurtle, E. TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Sanders, W. S. Tinker, J. J. Mr. Mathers and Mr. Adamson.
Seely, Sir H. M Tomlinson, G.