HC Deb 04 July 1933 vol 280 cc162-4
32. Colonel BALDWIN-WEBB

asked the Minister of Labour the number of beet-workers who have been disallowed transitional payment in Shropshire and elsewhere, respectively, as the result of the Anomalies Act?

Sir H. BETTERTON

I am in communication with my hon. and gallant Friend upon the position of beet workers in certain areas, and I am sending him some figures which bear on his question in respect of these areas. An extension of similar inquiries to a number of other areas would be a heavy task which I hope he will not press me to undertake.

Colonel BALDWIN-WEBB

I should like to press for the information, because I feel that the matter has not been dealt with equally throughout the country. Will the right bon. Gentleman give me the information?

Sir H. BETTERTON

I do not know whether the bon. and gallant Gentleman has got the letter I sent which deals very fully with the question on the Order Paper.

Colonel BALDWIN-WEBB

Yes.

Sir H. BETTERTON

I will see if I can get the further information for which the hon. and gallant Member asks, without undue expense.

Colonel BALOWIN-WEBB

If a worker, rather than remain out of work, takes work of this kind for; one or two seasons, and he cannot get any other work in addition, is he classed as a seasonal worker?

Sir H. BETTERTON

The bon. and gallant Gentleman says that he has received my letter. He cannot have read it, because that is exactly the point that I dealt with.

Captain HEILGERS

Will the right bon. Gentleman take steps to ensure that workers know that they can claim exemption from paying unemployment contributions?

Sir H. BETTERTON

I will see what can be done in order to make the provision perfectly clear to those who are in doubt about it.

Mr. LANSBURY

Will the tight bon. Gentleman not print the letter, or that part of it that concerns this question, so that we may all know?

Sir H. BETTERTON

Perhaps the best thing would be to have a. question put down to which I can give a reply containing the whole or the substance of the answer which I have given in the letter, which is a very long one. I desire that the full facts should be known.

Mr. BUCHANAN

Is the right bon. Gentleman not aware that men who take this work are refused benefit on the ground that they are seasonal workers under the Anomalies Act, and, seeing that it is a case of a decent man taking work, what steps does the right bon. Gentle man propose to take, apart from any letter, to see that these men are not penalized because they obtain work?

Sir H. BETTERTON

That point has not a direct reference to the question on the Paper. The question is not whether a man is regarded as a seasonal worker simply because he has taken on seasonal work, but whether the employment counts as seasonal; and that is a question which is decided by the statutory authority, not by me.

Mr. BUCHANAN

Why should a man who takes on work of this kind be refused benefit? Will not the right bon. Gentleman take steps to see that these men are not penalised because they leave their own districts and seek work rather than be unemployed?

Sir H. BETTERTON

The point mentioned by the bon. Member involves an alteration in the law, which is now being construed by the statutory autbority in the manner I have suggested.

Mr. BUCHANAN

I do not intend to press the matter.

Sir M. WOOD

Carl we have an assurance that this question will be comprehensively dealt with in the new legislation to be introduced in the autumn?

Sir H. BETTERTON

I have already said that all these questions relating to unemployment benefit are being comprehensively considered at the present time.

Lieut.-Colonel ACLAND-TROYTE

Was not the Anomalies Act a piece of Socialist legislation?