HC Deb 22 April 1929 vol 227 cc619-20
42. Sir A. SINCLAIR

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will state what reduction of Scottish harbour dues will be made in the approaching herring-fishing season as a result of the Budget proposals?

Sir J. GILMOUR

The proposed contribution by the Fishery Board for Scotland towards the cost of reductions of fishery harbour dues will require a vote of money to the Fishery Board in the new Parliament. It is proposed to present an estimate for the purpose as soon as possible in the new Parliament but it is obviously impossible at present to give the precise date at which Parliament will vote the money necessary for putting the proposals into operation.

Sir A. SINCLAIR

But cannot the right hon. Gentleman say by how much the dues will be reduced?

Sir J. GILMOUR

No, Sir, the amounts and actual terms will have to be evolved after very careful inquiry by the Fishery Board.

Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

Will it not be necessary for election purposes to say exactly what is going to be given?

Sir J. GILMOUR

No, Sir.

Mr. MACQUISTEN

If we understand correctly that the dues are to be reduced—

Sir J. GILMOUR

indicated assent.

Mr. MACQUISTEN

In that case, does the right hon. Gentleman think that this procedure will be as unpopular in Caithness as it is said to be in Hull?

Mr. SHINWELL

Are we to understand from the original answer that in the preparation of the Budget Estimates no allowance was made for the actual amount to be allocated for this purpose, and that this is a mere promise, and nothing more?

Sir J. GILMOUR

Oh, no, Sir; but, of course, the actual details of where these grants will be made and the amount of them require investigation into actual circumstances.

Mr. THOMAS

Do we understand that there is no definite arrangement between the Member for East Aberdeen (Mr. Boothby) and the Chancellor of the Exchequer as to what is to happen in this case?

Mr. SHINWELL

Is the position this, that you are afraid to tell Scotland what you propose to do?

Mr. MACQUISTEN

Am I not right in anticipating—

HON. MEMBERS

Order!