HC Deb 31 March 1925 vol 182 cc1111-3
89. Mr. LANSBURY

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies under what Ordinance coffee grown by natives in Kenya is pulled up by the police?

The UNDER-SECRETARY of STATE for the COLONIES (Mr. Ormsby-Gore)

The Registration of Coffee Plantations and Coffee Diseases Ordinance, 1918, requires that all coffee planters, regardless of race, shall register their plantations under penalty on conviction of fine, or imprisonment in default. I have no information with regard to coffee plants being pulled up.

Mr. LANSBURY

Can the hon. Gentleman tell the House the reason for this Ordinance, and why it should be illegal to grow coffee?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

It is not illegal to grow coffee. It is illegal to grow it except under special conditions, because in Ceylon this particular quality of coffee grown in Kenya was wiped out by disease in one year.

Colonel WEDGWOOD

Is it a fact that permission to grow coffee is refused to the natives of Kenya at the present time under this Ordinance?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

It is not absolutely refused, but they have to comply with strict Regulations, and, in fact, very little is grown there. Experiments are taking place with regard to the control of native-grown coffee in the neighbouring territories, and until we have seen the results of these experiments it is better not to take risks which might result in wiping out the whole industry.

Colonel WEDGWOOD

Is the hon. Gentleman satisfied that these Regulations are devised for the purpose of controlling disease, and not in order to prevent the natives from growing coffee?

Mr. MACLEAN

Will the hon. Gentleman inform the House whether restrictions similar to those applied in Kenya are applied in other parts of the Empire where coffee is grown?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

No, but in very few other parts of the Empire is this particular kind of coffee grown. For instance, the bulk of the native-grown coffee in the two neighbouring territories is an entirely different kind of coffee.

Mr. G. HARVEY

Have the natives of Kenya any chance of doing anything at all for themselves?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

Yes, they have a great deal of chance, and, as a matter of fact, they are producing increasing quantities of maize, cotton, and other products. The rapid increase in native production in the last two years has been very remarkable.

Mr. MACKINDER

Is it a fact that cotton is preferred to coffee?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

Yes, cotton is preferred to coffee?