HC Deb 08 January 1913 vol 46 c1161
6. Mr. MIDDLEMORE

asked, in view of the fact that in the spring of 1915 we shall have in home waters, including Gibraltar, only thirty-one completed ships of the "Dreadnought" type to Germany's twenty-three, this being equivalent to a superiority of 34.8 per cent. only, what measures are being taken to increase our superiority to the 60 per cent. regarded by the Admiralty as essential?

Mr. CHURCHILL

I have repeatedly stated that it is impossible to debate these matters by question and answer. It is much better to wait till the Estimates are presented in due course.

Mr. LEE

Does the right hon. Gentleman accept the statement in the question that Gibraltar is in home waters?

Mr. CHURCHILL

I think that my general answer really covers that point, as well as all the others included in that and similar questions.

Mr. MIDDLEMORE

Can the right hon. Gentleman call Gibraltar in home waters, when it has taken me, in a good ship, nearly five days to come from Gibraltar to Southampton?

Mr. CHURCHILL

No, Sir. The ships stationed at Gibraltar are available for the defence of home waters, and are considered among the resources we draw upon for that purpose.

Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

Did not the right hon. Gentleman state in his own speech that it was three and a half days' sailing from the North Sea to Gibraltar?

Mr. CHURCHILL

All these questions of distances and the time it takes ships to traverse distances of sea water are very well-known, and can be verified by reference to any of the ordinary works.

Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

Is it not a fact?