HC Deb 24 February 1887 vol 311 cc556-7
MR. KENYON (Denbigh)

moved for a Return showing the net annual income derived by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners from property in Wales, and the annual payments made by them to the Bishops, Chapters, and Archdeacons, &c, in Wales, and the annual value of the grants made by the Commissioners in augmentation of benefices in Wales.

MR. T. E. ELLIS (Merionethshire)

As the Return now stands, it only applies to one year, which would really amount to a re-publication of the items which appeared in the last year's Report of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. The items for one year would be worthless, and unless the Return be ordered for a period long enough to allow of an adequate comparison, I will oppose the Motion. I suggest that the words "since 1850" be added to the Motion.

MR. KENYON

Such a Return as the hon. Gentleman suggests would lead to an indefinite amount of trouble which I do not think the Ecclesiastical Com- missioners will be prepared to take. I think it would be better to adhere to my form, which has received the sanction of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners.

MR. SEXTON (Belfast, W.)

As a matter of Order, Mr. Speaker, does not the Opposition prevent the Motion being taken?

MR. KENYON

There is no Notice of objection.

MR. SPEAKER

As it is a new Motion, and the hon. Gentleman (Mr. T. E. Ellis) objects, it will have to be deferred.

Motion deferred till To-morrow.