HC Deb 06 August 1878 vol 242 cc1380-94
COLONEL STANLEY,

who on rising was interrupted by Major O'Gorman with a loud cry of "Hear, hear!" said, it would hardly be necessary for him to take up the time of the House with any long statement, for, as a matter of fact, the Reserve Forces had been sent home, and their allowances were things of the past. [Major O'GORMAN: Hear, hear! and cries of "Order!"] The question was one which must be dealt with not as a matter of kindly feeling towards the wives and families of the Reserve men, but as a matter of duty, and in accordance with the actual facts as they stood. [Major O'GORMAN: Hear, hear! ] The Government were bound to exercise their functions as ministers of the fund placed at their disposal by Parliament; and, however agreeable it might be to place the families of the men of the Reserves in a position of affluence, that was not the object with which they ought to approach the subject.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

again exclaimed "Hear, hear!" in a loud tone.

MR. SPEAKER

Order! order!

MAJOR O'GORMAN

Hear, hear!

COLONEL STANLEY

proceeded. They had to consider the absolute requirements of the case. In the first place, he need scarcely point out that when the men entered into their engagements they knew perfectly well what their liabilities and emoluments were to be, and in the next place, as far as he could judge, the amount of actual destitution had been comparatively small, and had been, in most cases, traceable to causes for which the Government were not altogether responsible. His right hon. Friend had been good enough to desire a circular to be addressed to the local authorities inquiring what cases of destitution had been heard of in each neighbourhood; and till the facts of the case were proved, he could not admit the reality of the alleged widespread destitution. [Major O'GORMAN: Hear, hear!] With very few exceptions, the letters that had been addressed to him contained no complaints of the insufficiency of the allowances. He might remind the House that in addition to the allowances made the Government had thought themselves at liberty to interpret the regulations in respect of school fees so as to place the children of Reserve men on the same footing as the children of men actually serving with the colours—that was to say, the school fees were paid for them. This was a great assistance to the family. He did not deny that there might be cases of hardship—

MAJOR O'GORMAN

(in a loud tone): Hear, hear! ["Order, order!" "Chair, chair!"]

MR. SPEAKER

The right hon. and gallant Gentleman the Secretary of State for War is addressing the House, and is entitled to proceed without interruption. I must call upon the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford to desist from these interruptions.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

I am not interrupting; I insist I am not interrupting. I am entitled to call "Hear, hear!" [Cries of "Order!" and "Chair! "] I have not interrupted; I insist I have not. I am entitled to call "Hear, hear!"

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

It is impossible that interruptions of this kind can be allowed. It is quite impossible that this House can submit to hear the ruling of the Speaker from the Chair disregarded. The hon. and gallant Member has been twice called to Order, and, instead of preserving Order, he repeats the expressions which drew Mr. Speaker's interference. The House cannot submit to hear Mr. Speaker challenged. The hon. and gallant Member, no doubt, had no intention to do anything disorderly; but he must feel it his duty to desist.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

I am not disorderly. I deny it. I have a right to call "Hear, hear!" whenever and as often as I please.

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

The hon. and gallant Gentleman, I am willing to believe, has no intention of doing anything that would not be in Order; but Mr. Speaker having been appealed to, and having called upon the hon. and gallant Gentleman to desist from interrupting—

MAJOR O'GORMAN

I am not out of Order. I deny it. I am not interrupting. I have a right to call "Hear, hear!" after every sentence, after every comma, after every semi-colon, if I think proper, and I mean to exercise it.

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

The House cannot submit to have the ruling of the Speaker set at defiance by interruptions of this kind. The hon. and gallant Gentleman probably has no intention of doing anything disorderly; but he must feel that, having been called to Order, he cannot be permitted to continue these interruptions.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

I am not interrupting. I deny it. [Cries of "Order!" and "Chair!"]

SIR PATRICK O'BRIEN

I am sure, Sir, that the hon. and gallant Gentleman never meant to dispute your ruling. It is only a matter of not understanding what your ruling was. He was under the impression that he was quite in Order in doing as he did; but, as I gather from your decision, Sir, he was not in Order, I am sure he will feel that he ought not to continue in that course.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

(in a loud and excited tone): I have a right to cheer, and I intend to do it. ["Order!"]

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

This is a state of things which the House cannot permit to continue. [Cheers.] I am not quite sure what is the precedent that we ought to follow— [Major O'GORMAN: Hear!]—for, happily, such conduct is not of a character very common; but I apprehend that it will be necessary, unless the hon. and gallant Gentleman the Member for Waterford apologizes to the Chair for disputing your ruling, that the House should proceed to pass some Resolution on his conduct. I think, Sir, I am in Order in suggesting that you, Sir, should call upon the hon. and gallant Member to apologize and to submit himself to the ruling of the Chair; and if that be not done I shall feel it my duty to submit a Motion to the House upon his conduct.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

I will not apologize.

MR. SPEAKER

I will put it to the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford, that he owes it to the House to make some apology for the interruption he has persisted in carrying on. I must call upon him at once to make such apology as is due to the House.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

I refuse to do it. I have done nothing but what is perfectly usual in this House. I have a right to cheer, if I think proper, or to cry "Oh, oh!" at every comma, at every colon, at every semi-colon—spoken in the language in this House. I am entitled to do that by every rule of the House, by every precedent of the House. I have done nothing wrong. If I did do anything wrong, I am an Irish gentleman, and know how to apologize for it; but I have done nothing wrong, and will not apologize.

MR. BULWER

I do not think the hon. and gallant Gentleman quite appreciates the position. No Member of the House would object to the hon. and gallant Member cheering in accordance with the rules and customs of the House; but I would point out to the hon. and gallant Member that that is not the question. You, Sir, have called upon the hon. and gallant Member to desist from pursuing a certain line of conduct; and the hon. and gallant Member refuses to desist. The point is that he has been called to Order by the Speaker. Although the hon. and gallant Member may think that he is not exceeding his privilege, yet now that his attention has been directed to the matter from the Chair, I am sure the hon. and gallant Member is too good a soldier to refuse to submit to discipline.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

The Speaker has not called me to Order. He has done nothing of the sort.

MR. SPEAKER

After what has passed I have no other alternative left to me but to name the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford for the line of conduct he has pursued this evening; and I now name you, Major O'Gorman, for having interrupted the proceedings of this House by disorderly conduct, and for having refused, when called upon by the Chair, to submit yourself to the judgment of the House.

MAJOR O'GORMAN

Hear, hear!

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

As you, Sir, have felt it neces- sary to exercise what is always held to be a solemn duty—[Major O'GORMAN: Pshaw!]—by naming the hon. and gallant Member, I feel it my duty to move that the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford, for his disorderly interruption and disrespectful conduct to yourself, be directed to withdraw.

MR. LOWE

I second the Motion.

Motion made, and Question proposed, That Major O'Gorman for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair he directed to withdraw."—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

MR. O'CONNOR POWER

I have not the advantage of knowing all the circumstances which have given rise to this painful incident. I understand the circumstances partially, but not the whole of the circumstances, which have made it the painful duty of the Leader of the House to move the Resolution just read from the Chair; but, so far as I understand the circumstances, there was no other course open to the right hon. Gentleman than the one he has adopted. But, before a Motion of the kind proposed is put, one is naturally anxious to know to what it is likely to lead. I would like to know what further step is likely to result from this proceeding before I give my assent to the Motion? I do not make this remark in any hypercritical spirit. I think it would be of assistance to hon. Members in deciding what course they should take if the Chancellor of the Exchequer would indicate what he intends to do supposing he carries his Motion?

SIR PATRICK O'BRIEN

Sir, within my memory there is one Member of this House whom I can recall as being named—Mr. Charles Gavan Duffy, the Member for New Ross—and he was named by Mr. John Ball. But upon his being named there was no possible mistake as to the reasons for such nomination. May I venture to say that there seems to me to be a misapprehension in this case? I believe my hon. and gallant Friend is under a gross misapprehension. He is under an impression which is neither justified by the Rules of the House or of any deliberative Assembly; but he has a strange idea that he has a right to use certain phrases to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman when he was addressing the House. [Major O'GORMAN: No, no!] As it occurs to me, the hon. and gallant Member is grossly in error. The mistake he has committed is this—that after he has been called to Order by you, Sir, who preside over this House, he has not felt it his duty—no matter what may be his own private views—to submit to you as the person empowered to guide and influence the House. I am certain, however, that if the Speaker will permit the hon. and gallant Member now to apologize, the Chancellor of the Exchequer will withdraw the Motion, which it must have been a great pain to him to propose to the House.

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

The hon. Member for Mayo (Mr. O'Connor Power) asks what is the course I propose next to take? I believe that on an occasion of this sort the proper course would be, the hon. and gallant Member having withdrawn, for the House to consider what course should be taken. That is a matter entirely for the judgment of the House. Probably some expression of opinion on the part of the House would be asked for upon the conduct of the hon. and gallant Gentleman; and, of course, it would not be right that should be done in the presence of the hon. and gallant Gentleman. I am quite certain that the House, even now, if the hon. and gallant Gentleman is willing to say that he apologizes to the House, and expresses his regret that he was out of Order, will permit this painful scene to come to a conclusion. But unless that is done, it is really necessary that the hon. and gallant Gentleman should withdraw in order that we should consider the course we should take.

SIR HENRY HAVELOCK

was understood to suggest that the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford was labouring under violent excitement arising from a personal matter, and that that offered some palliation though not excuse for his conduct.

[Major O'GORMAN had now left the House.]

DR. O'LEARY

I rise with a feeling of great embarrassment; but I know that the hon. and gallant Member is, and has been for the last three hours, labouring under deep excitement caused by the reception of communications of a personal nature, the character of which has very greatly excited him. If I were professionally asked the question, I should say that, under the present circumstances, he is not really accountable for his actions.

MR. STACPOOLE

I am sure the hon. and gallant Member, if he thinks carefully over this matter, will be the first person to offer an apology and explanation. Perhaps he is rather heated, and the House is perhaps a little excited by the occurrence. It is a very unusual thing that a Member should be "named," and a Speaker of this House once said, when he was asked what would be the consequence of such an event, "The Lord only knows." I would ask the House to consider the matter quietly and candidly, and therefore to let the question be adjourned till to-morrow. When he is a little more calm and collected, the hon. and gallant Member will see his position—and I beg, therefore, to move the adjournment of the debate.

SIR CHARLES RUSSELL

As one who was present at the time when this unhappy occurrence arose, I may say, Sir, that the principal object in the mind of everyone is that your position should be sustained. The hon. and gallant Member seems to have done that which it would put the House to some difficulty to induce him to do—namely, to withdraw; and I hope that after the opinions that have been expressed, it will be held that the authority of the Chair and the dignity of the House have been sufficiently maintained. I therefore think that if the hon. and gallant Member is prepared to make a full and sufficient apology, it might be accepted, and he might be exempted from further consequences.

SIR GEORGE CAMPBELL

thought that they might now be permitted to proceed with Business.

COLONEL STANLEY

As I happened to be the one who was speaking when you, Sir, called the hon. and gallant Member to Order, I should like to add a few words. I need hardly assure the House, or the Friends of the hon. and gallant Gentleman, that no one can regard his interruptions with a kinder feeling than I do. It is at any time a pleasure to receive a cheer from the hon. and gallant Gentleman, and whether in the precise nature of a cheer of approbation or not, I do not inquire. But you, Sir, saw in the interests of the House that these cheers exceeded those which it is the ordinary function of a Member of this House to utter. I only venture now to make the humble suggestion that if the House be of opinion that its dignity and that of the Chair has been sufficiently vindicated, and if the hon. and gallant Member, on the Motion that he be ordered to withdraw, should submit himself to your ruling and apologize to the House for his conduct, this painful incident may be allowed to pass aside.

MR. C. BECKETT-DENISON

said, there was a distinct Motion before the House, which he apprehended would be carried nemine contradicente. But he would add one suggestion to what had fallen from the right hon. and gallant Gentleman the Secretary of State for War, and that was, that if there be any communication to be made to the hon. and gallant Member for Water-ford, it should not be made to-night, after the explanations that have been given of his conduct, but that tomorrow should be given him as a locus penitential wherein he may make a full submission to the House.

MR. SPEAKER

was about to put the Motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, when—

MR. STACPOOLE

reminded Mr. Speaker that he had moved the adjournment of the debate:—As that Motion had not been formally proposed—

MR. SHEIL

now moved that the debate be adjourned.

MR. MELDON

seconded the Motion.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Debate be now adjourned." —(Mr. Sheil.)

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

I do not see how the House can, consistently with its own dignity, adjourn the debate on such a question. The Motion before the House is that the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford do withdraw; and I apprehend that that is a question which does not admit of adjournment. As soon as a decision has been arrived at on the latter question, it will then become the duty of someone— I shall take this duty upon myself—to make a proposal to the House. I do not wish to be out of Order by saying what I am going to do, but I think there is great force in the suggestion of the two hon. Members that this matter should not be proceeded with hastily tonight, but that opportunity should be given to the House to consider what course shall be taken; but the Motion before the House is one that ought to be decided at once.

MAJOR NOLAN

All the Irish Members are anxious to sustain the authority of the Chair, and regret that it should have been disregarded by the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford. But I think the use of the words "disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour" makes the matter more serious than is absolutely necessary. It will be quite sufficient if the hon. and gallant Member is ordered to withdraw. If the Motion for the adjournment of the debate were withdrawn, I will move the omission of those words.

SIR WILLIAM HARCOURT

How is it possible we can adjourn till tomorrow the Question whether the hon. and gallant Member be directed to withdraw? It is not common sense. The object of the House is to vindicate the authority of the Chair. Nobody wishes that the hon. and gallant Member should be hastily dealt with—the consideration of how he shall be dealt with is another matter. The only matter before the Committee at the moment is whether we shall vindicate the authority of the Chair, which has been called in question, and that we cannot adjourn till tomorrow.

MR. NEWDEGATE

If what has been stated with respect to the condition of the hon. and gallant Member be the fact, it is clearly not only the best course for the House itself that this Motion should be adopted, but it is the most considerate course towards the hon. and gallant Member himself; for this will give him to-night to reflect upon what has occurred, and that, I trust, will produce a proper apology to you, Sir, tomorrow.

SIR UGHTRED KAY-SHUTTLE-WORTH

I hope Irish Members will not persevere in the proposal to omit the words "disorderly and disrespectful." Hon. Members for Ireland have themselves admitted—as hon. Members who heard what took place cannot but admit —that by distinctly contradicting you, Sir, by disputing your ruling, and by refusing to apologize to the House, the conduct of the hon. and gallant Member was disrespectful and disorderly. It would be idle to pass any Resolution of this kind without taking distinct notice of why it is passed.

MR. O'CLERY

trusted that the word "disrespectful" would be omitted, for he was sure his hon. and gallant Friend was quite incapable of intentional disrespect to the Chair.

SIR PATRICK O'BRIEN

said, that as allusion had been made to the excitement under which his hon. and gallant Friend laboured, he wished to explain that that excitement was produced by a consideration, as he conceived it, of professional wrong. It was right that that should be known, lest it should be attributed to any other cause.

Motion, by leave, withdrawn.

Question again proposed, That Major O'Gorman for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair be directed to withdraw.

MAJOR NOLAN

I now beg to propose, as an Amendment, to leave out the words '' for disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour to the Chair," and to add at the end, " for disregarding the authority of the Chair." [An hon. MEMBER: Is that disorderly or not?] I will not go into that now. I am very sorry for his conduct; but I should be sorry indeed if a record was entered on the Journals of this House against the hon. and gallant Member for Water-ford for his whole lifetime; and I think, taking the explanation of my hon. Friend (Dr. O'Leary) into account, these words should be left out.

DR. WARD

seconded the Amendment.

Amendment proposed, To leave out the words " for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair," and, at the end of the Question, to add the words "for disregarding the authority of the Chair."—(Major Nolan.)

Question proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

I am quite sure the House always desires to act in a kindly spirit towards all its Members, and there is no Member of the House towards whom more kindly feelings are entertained than towards the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford. At the same time, I am bound to say—I do not wish to use strong language—but I think that the conduct of the hon. and gallant Member towards you, Sir—however it may be accounted for—was such that the House cannot possibly overlook. It is essential—it is our first duty—in cases of this kind, to support the authority of the Chair. That authority—and I appeal to all who were present at the time— was not exerted until after a considerable time had elapsed, and it was then exerted in the most considerate form. The hon. and gallant Member most distinctly, and with considerable emphasis, several times declared his intention of not submitting to the authority of the Chair, and his conduct was such that it is impossible to abstain from marking it with our- disapprobation. Nobody can mistake the character of the interruption or of the vote which I propose shall be passed. I am quite sure, however, that the kindly feelings we all entertain towards the hon. and gallant Member will prevent us doing anything unnecessary or which would needlessly cause him pain; but it is a case in which I must ask the House to support me.

MR. LOWE

It is not, Sir, with a view to cause pain to the hon. and gallant Member we are asked to vote for this Motion, but because it is absolutely necessary to carry on our Business with a due regard to order, and to maintain—what is most necessary to that end—the deference which is due, and which we are most happy to pay, to your ruling. As the matter stands, if the Amendment were carried, it would really amount to a ruling by this House that a refusal to obey an order of the Chair is not disrespectful. To the Amendment I hope the House will not agree. I think we shall take a moderate and wise course if we do that which is absolutely necessary to vindicate your authority, in which we are all as much interested as you, Sir, are yourself. If we do that, we can then suspend proceedings, and the hon. and gallant Member will then have an opportunity of making his submission to the House and to the Chair, and save us from the painful necessity of going further.

LORD ELCHO

considered it essential that the Resolution should be carried unanimously. The question really amounted to this—whether the House was to remain an orderly Assembly, or to become a disorderly one? No one could doubt that the conduct of the hon. and gallant Member who had withdrawn was disorderly, and it had been so ruled. They could not, therefore, accept an Amendment which disputed that fact. There were two questions to be considered; one was how the hon. and gallant Member should be dealt with, the other was as to the character of the House itself. As to the latter, it appeared to him that the adoption of the Resolution of the Chancellor of the Exchequer was the only way in which they could deal with the conduct of the hon. and gallant Member consistently with the dignity of this House; but, after maintaining that dignity, they were prepared to accept his apology to-morrow. He hoped, therefore, that hon. Members for Ireland who were anxious to save their Friend, would withdraw their Amendment.

MR. STACPOOLE

I hope my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Gal-way (Major Nolan) will withdraw his Amendment, and allow the House to come to an unanimous decision; and then I hope, to-morrow, my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Waterford will come down to the House and express regret for the course he has pursued.

MR. MELDON

I should have been delighted if my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Waterford had been in a position to withdraw the expressions he made use of. I think your authority, and the dignity of the House, would have been vindicated if he had withdrawn them at the time. But I believe, from the excited state he has been in all this evening, that it is scarcely possible for him to consider the matter reasonably. I could have wished, therefore, that there should have been an adjournment of the debate, in order to give him an opportunity for reflection. That course, however, has not been adopted, and we now come to the Amendment of my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Galway. I would urge him not to press that Amendment in the interest of the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford himself, and I will tell him why. It is perfectly well known that the hon. and gallant Member is not responsible for the conduct he has pursued to-night. I hope the House will not now come to a deliberate opinion upon the conduct of the hon. and gallant Member, but will afford him the opportunity of an explanation, which I am fully persuaded will be perfectly satisfactory. The passing of a Resolution under these circumstances would be a more serious matter than merely passing a Resolution which would give a locus penitentiœ of which the hon. and gallant Member could avail himself.

MR. A. MOORE

I certainly shall not deprecate any course of action which the Government or the House may think fit to adopt; but, knowing the excitable character of my hon. and gallant Friend, and knowing that when, on a previous occasion, he found himself in the wrong, he was anxious and willing to make an apology, I think the authority of the Chair would be amply vindicated if he were simply ordered to withdraw. I have seen the hon. and gallant Member a few minutes since, and he is so excited that he cannot bring calm reflection to bear on the question. I can hardly believe, Sir, that he could have intended to be disrespectful to you, so respectful is the usual tone of his mind. I, therefore, support the Amendment. I hope that the words branding him with un-gentleman like conduct will be withdrawn.

MR. NEWDEGATE

I do not think that the hon. and gallant Member for Galway has considered that the addition of the words he proposes will convey a stronger condemnation of the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford than the original Motion; and, therefore, in the interest of the hon. and gallant Member for Waterford himself, I hope that the hon. and gallant Member for Galway will not persevere with his Amendment.

MR. P. J. SMYTH

I have just conferred with my hon. and gallant Friend outside the House, and he assures me he meant no disrespect to you, Sir. He assures me of that positively. Other Members have gone out to confer with him, and I hope the House will defer its decision. ["No, no!"] I do not think there is any Member of this House less capable of any act of disrespect towards this House or the Chair than my hon. and gallant Friend. I was not here at the time the words were spoken; but, whatever he may have said in a moment of excitement, I am sure he did not mean any disrespect to your authority. I do hope there will be no objection to allow him to come in and personally make his apology. ["No, no!"]

Question, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question," put, and agreed to.

Main Question put.

Ordered, That Major O'Gorman, for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair, be directed to withdraw.— (Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

I now desire to move that the conduct of Major O'Gorman towards the Chair be taken into consideration tomorrow, and that he be ordered to attend in his place to-morrow. I feel sure, as well from the character of the hon. and gallant Gentleman as from what has been said of him by his Friends, that when to-morrow comes, having had time to think over what has passed, he will give such an explanation or make such statement as shall entirely put an end to the matter.

Motion agreed to.

Ordered, That the conduct of Major O'Gorman towards the Chair be taken into consideration To-morrow. — (Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

Ordered, That Major O'Gorman do attend in his place To-morrow.—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

The Entry of this discussion upon the Votes is as follows:—

Major O'Gorman, Member for Water-ford, having frequently in a disorderly manner interrupted the Secretary of State for "War, who was speaking in Debate, was called to order by Mr. Speaker, and having declined to submit to the authority of the Chair—

Mr. Speaker called on Major O'Gorman by his name:—

Whereupon, Major O'Gorman having persisted in his disorderly behaviour,

Motion made, and Question proposed, That Major O'Gorman for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair be directed to withdraw."—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

Debate arising;

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Debate be now adjourned." —(Mr. Shell.)

Motion, by leave, withdrawn.

Question again proposed, That Major O'Gorman for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair be directed to withdraw. Amendment proposed, To leave out the words "for his disorderly-conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair," and, at the end of the Question, to add the words "for disregarding the authority of the Chair."—(Major Nolan.) Question proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question."

Question put, and agreed to.

Main Question put.

Ordered, That Major O'Gorman, for his disorderly conduct and disrespectful behaviour towards the Chair, be directed to withdraw.—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

Ordered, That the conduct of Major O'Gorman towards the Chair be taken into consideration To-morrow.—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

Ordered, That Major O'Gorman do attend in his place To-morrow.—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)

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