HC Deb 14 May 1877 vol 234 cc863-4
MR. BOURKE

Sir, I wish, with the indulgence of the House, to say a very few words. I mentioned the other day that Mr. Cobden had made a certain statement. I made that statement from recollection, having seen it, as I thought, in one of Mr. Cobden's speeches. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for Greenwich (Mr. Gladstone) asked me not unnaturally for my authority, and I pledged myself at that time to give him my authority. With the permission of the House I will now read two or three lines from Hansard. They are to be found in Volume 139, page 582, and the speech to which I alluded was delivered by Mr. Cobden on the 6th of July, 1855, in the great debate that was held at that time. [Mr. JOHN BRIGHT: What was the subject?] The debate was with regard to the negotiations at Vienna, and it was hold on Lord John Russell leaving the Ministry at that time. I will not weary the House by reading the context, but the words to which I referred are these— I look back with regret on the vote which I gave upon the Motion which changed Lord Derby's Government. I regret the result of that Motion, for it has cost the country 100 millions of treasure and between 20,000 and 30,000 good lives. That was what was running in my head at the time I made my statement. I am sorry that the right hon. Member for Greenwich is not in his place, but perhaps some right hon. Gentleman opposite will inform him of what I have stated when he comes into the House.