HC Deb 06 April 1875 vol 223 c399

Order for Second Beading read.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Bill be now read a second time."—(Captain, Bedford Pim.)

MR. ASSHETON CROSS

sympathized with the objects of the hon. and gallant Member in introducing the Bill, but felt compelled to insist on the advisability of doing what was aimed at, if it were possible, either under the provisions of the Reformatory and Industrial Schools Acts, or by amending these provisions if amendment could be shown to be necessary and desirable. In these institutions boys were being trained to industrial pursuits; but one clause of this Bill would go further than the Acts, by compelling a boy to adopt a trade even against his will; and that he could hardly agree to. There were several ships employed under both Acts, and, if more were wanted, he should be glad to render assistance in obtaining them. In the five training ships there were 14,000 boys. These had been established as training schools at an expense of £50,000. They were doing much good, and perhaps they would do more. Hitherto part of the work had been done by private benevolence; but this Bill would throw a burden on the rates, which was another reason for seeing whether its object could not be accomplished by an extension of the system at present in operation. He would be glad to have a conversation on the subject with his hon. and gallant Friend, and then he would be able to judge whether it would be necessary for him to introduce a Bill amending the present Acts. He would suggest that this Bill should be withdrawn.

CAPTAIN BEDFORD PIM

said, he would withdraw the Bill on the understanding just expressed by the right hon. Gentleman the Home Secretary.

Motion, by leave, withdrawn

Bill withdrawn.