HC Deb 21 June 1872 vol 212 cc77-8
LORD ELCHO

, who had given Notice to move an Address for Papers relating to the case of Lieutenant Tribe, 9th Lancers, said, since the House, on the Motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, by a majority of 26, had given up its right to bring forward on going into Committee of Supply any grievance affecting any in- dividual in this country, and since the Government had taken Tuesdays and Fridays from private Members, it was notorious that private Members had only from 9 till 12 o'clock on Tuesdays and Fridays to bring forward grievances. Therefore, the position of a private Member who desired to bring forward a question which might take up some time, and which he wished to be fully discussed and reported, was an embarrassing one. Circumstanced as he was, he was obliged to discover whether there was any possibility, according to the Rules of the House, of his obtaining a proper opportunity of stating the grievance which he wished to bring before the House. He believed the natural opportunity for stating that grievance was not on the Motion for going into Committee of Supply, but in Committee of Supply itself, and therefore it was his intention, when the Army Estimates were brought forward next Monday, to state the case of Lieutenant Tribe on the Vote for the Administration of the Army, it being a question of discipline; and in order to give point to that statement, he would move the reduction of the salary of the Secretary of State for War by £2,000, and his reason for doing so would be that that sum would only be a fair and legitimate penalty to impose upon the right hon. Gentleman for committing an act of very great indiscretion in answering a question of the hon. Member for Hackney (Mr. Holms) on a matter relating to the discipline of the Army.

Main Question, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair," put, and agreed to.

SUPPLY—considered in Committee.

Committee report Progress; to sit again upon Monday next.