HC Deb 12 May 1847 vol 92 cc721-2

Bill considered in Committee. On the question that the Report be now received,

MR. STAFFORD O'BRIEN

said, that having failed to catch the Speaker's eye previous to his leaving the chair, he had been unable to move that the House resolve itself into a Committee on this Bill that day six months. As it was, he thought the best plan would be to move that the Report be received that day six months. The principle of the Bill was one which he could not too strongly protest against, and which he trusted would not be sanctioned by the House.

SIR G. GREY

said, that on the second reading of the Bill he had stated the grounds on which he assented to that stage of the measure, reserving to himself the right of opposing some of the clauses in Committee. The Bill having now been committed pro formâ, it would be an unusual course to reject it without allowing the hon. Member who introduced it to lay it before the House in its amended shape. Under these circumstances, he hoped that the hon. Member would not press his Amendment.

MR. YOUNG

said, it was impossible to conceive that any alteration which could be made in the Bill would render it worthy of adoption by the House.

MR. SHARMAN CRAWFORD

said, that in the present state of the law, tenants, being exposed to the oppression of landlords and middlemen, were unable to deduct from the rent the portion to which they were entitled on account of rates paid by them. To remedy that evil was one of the objects of the Bill. It had long been found a difficult matter to collect the portion of the rates which ought to be paid by the landlord, and therefore the Bill provided, that in cases of neglect to pay rates by landlords, the Poor Law Commissioners might apply to the superior courts in Dublin for the appointment of receivers of the rents of their estates.

SIR R. FERGUSON

opposed the Bill, and said it would be impracticable to levy rates under it.

MR. LABOUCHERE

said, he would oppose the Amendment; but wished it not to be supposed that he was favourable to the Bill. He disapproved of the Amendment because it was unusual to bring it forward at such a stage.

MR. GOULBURN

said, that if the Amendment was unusual it was made under unusual circumstances. His hon. Friend had intended to object to the recommittal of the Bill; but that stage of the measure was passed with such rapidity that he was driven to take his objection to the report.

The House divided on the question that the word "now" stand part of the Question:—Ayes 55; Noes 81: Majority 26.

List of the AYES.
Anson, hon. Col. Bouverie, hon. E. P.
Arkwright, G. Bowes, J.
Armstrong, Sir A. Brotherton, J.
Arundel and Surrey, Earl of Busfeild, W.
Cowper, hon. W. F.
Berkeley, hon. C. Craig, W. G.
Berkeley, hon. Capt. Dawson, hon. T. V.
Divett, E. Napier, Sir C.
Duncan, G. Newry, Visct.
Dundas, A. Parker, J.
Dundas, Sir D. Pattison, J.
Escott, B. Pendarves, E. W. W.
Fielden, J. Russell, Lord E.
Fox, C. R. Rutherfurd, A.
Frewen, C. H. Somerville, Sir W. M.
Gore, hon. R. Strutt, rt. hon. E.
Grey, rt. hon. Sir G. Thornely, T.
Hastie, A. Trelawny, J. S.
Hay, Sir A. L. Tufnell, H.
Hill, Lord M. Wakley, T.
Hoskins, K. Ward, H. G.
Howard, P. H. Watson, W. H.
Jervis, Sir J. Wawn, J. T.
Labouchere, rt. hn. H. Williams, W.
Mackinnon, W. A. Wood, Col. T.
M'Carthy, A. Wyse, T.
Maitland, T.
Mitcalfe, H. TELLERS.
Mitchell, T. A. Crawford, W. S.
Monahan, J. H. Bowring, Dr.
List of the NOES.
Archdale, Capt. M. Hussey, T.
Baillie, W. Ingestre, Visct.
Baldwin, B. Jocelyn, Visct.
Barrington, Visct. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. H.
Beckett, W. Law, hon. C. E.
Bennet, P. Lefroy, A.
Beresford, Maj. Lindsay, Col.
Blackstone, W. S. Mackenzie, T.
Boldero, H. G. Mackenzie, W. F.
Borthwick, P. Maxwell, hon. J. P.
Brisco, M. Miles, P. W. S.
Buckley, E. Mundy, E. M.
Bunbury, W. M. Neeld, J.
Carew, W. H. P. Northland, Visct.
Christopher, R. A. Prime, R.
Copeland, Ald. Rashleigh, W.
Corry, rt. hon. H. Rendlesham, Lord
Cripps, W. Repton, G. W. J.
Duckworth, Sir J. T. B. Richards, R.
Duncombe, hon. A. Round, C. G.
Duncombe, hon. O. Round, J.
Egerton, W. T. Sheppard, T.
Entwisle, W. Sibthorp, Col.
Ferguson, Sir R. A. Spooner, R.
Ferrand, W. B. Stuart, H.
Forbes, W. Stuart, J.
Fuller, A. E. Thornhill, G.
Gisborne, T. Tollemache, J.
Gladstone, Capt. Trevor, hon. G. R.
Goring, C. Trotter, J.
Goulburn, rt. hon. H. Verner, Sir W.
Granby, Marq. of Vyse, H.
Greene, T. Waddington, H. S.
Gregory, W. H. Wall, C. B.
Grogan, E. Wellesley, Lord C.
Halsey, T. P. Winnington, Sir T. E.
Hamilton, Lord C. Wodehouse, E.
Hill, Lord E. Worcester, Marq. of
Hodgson, R.
Holmes, hon. W. A'C. TELLERS.
Hope, Sir J. O'Brien, A. S.
Hudson, G. Young, J.