HC Deb 10 February 1842 vol 60 cc262-3
Mr..Brotherton

was convinced that the opinion was daily gaining ground that the system, of sitting until such late hours was anything but advantageous to legislation, or beneficial to the public. He had often brought forward the motion before, but had not been successful in inducing the House to agree to it, but as he saw many new Members present, he was in hopes that his present proposition would be attended with better success. He did not object to a debate which commenced before twelve o'clock being terminated that night, but he was strongly opposed to business ocoupying considerable time being brought forward after midnight. In 1614 an order of the House was made, that no new business should be brought forward after twelve o'clock at noon. To show the change that had taken place in the feelings and circumstances of the times. he had now to bring forward a motion to prevent new business, if opposed, being brought forward after twelve o'clock at night. Another order of the House was passed, that no Member should leave the House before the Speaker, and that he should leave first, and that the other Members should follow. If this system obtained now, they would certainly ensure the attendance of at least 100 Members. The hon. Member concluded with moving, "That no opposed motion be brought on and decided after twelve o'clock at night, unless 100 Members be present."

Sir R. Peel

observed, that as the hon. Member had stated, that there were many new Members in the House, and that he was anxious to take their opinion on the subject, would it not have been advisable to have waited and let the new Members have some experience of the present system? He (Sir R. Peel) confessed that he saw no particular advantage that would arise from adopting the motion of the hon. Member. Circumstances and habits had altered since the time that the House used to meet at ten o'clock in the morning, and if the House reverted to that custom, there must be a total change in the mode of conducting business. As long as they met at four o'clock, and did not commence public business until five, the motion, if carried, would prove a great impediment to the discharge of public business. It would be highly inconvenient to allow one Member to throw an impediment in the way of business; but at present, if five or six Members objected to new business being brought forward, or expressed themselves in favour of an adjournment, he, for his own part, was, and should continue to be, willing to yield.

The House divided—Ayes 26; Noes 200: Majority 174.

List of the AYES.
Aglionby H. A. Marsland, H.
Blake, M. Morris, D.
Bowes, J. O'Brien, W. S.
Bowring, Dr. O'Connell, D.
Brodie, W. B. O'Connell, M. J.
Busfeild, W. Scholefield, J.
Crawford, W. S. Scott, R.
Duncan, G. Strickland, Sir G.
Forster, M. Ward, H. G.
Fox, C. R. Wason, R.
Gibson, T. M. Wawn, J. T.
Harford, S. Williams, W.
Hatton, Capt. V. TELLERS.
Hindley, C. Brotherton, J.
Johnson, General Ewart, W.
List of the NOES.
Acland, T. D. Ainsworth, P.
A'Court, Captain Aldam, W.
Ackers, J. Alexander, N.
Adare, Viscount Allix, J. P.
Antrobus, E. Gore, M.
Armstrong, Sir A. Gore, hon. Capt.
Ashley, Lord Goulburn, rt. hon. H.
Astell, W. Graham, rt. hon. Sir J.
Baillie, Colonel Greenall, P.
Baillie, H. J. Greene, T.
Baird, W. Grey, rt. hon. Sir G.
Baring, rt. hon. F. T. Grimston, Viscount
Barnard, E. G. Grogan, E.
Baskerville, T. B. M. Guest, Sir J.
Beckett, W. Halford, H.
Bernal, R. Hamilton, J.
Bodkin, W. H. Hamilton, W. J.
Boldero, H. G. Hamilton, Lord C.
Borthwick, P. Harcourt, G. G.
Botfield, B. Hardinge, rt. hn. Sir H.
Bramston, T. W. Hardy, J.
Broadley, H. Hastie, A.
Broadwood, H. Hawes, B.
Brocklehurst, J. Hay, Sir A. L.
Bruce, Lord E. Heneage, G. H. W.
Bruce, C. L. C. Henley, J. W.
Buck, L. W. Herbert, hon. S.
Buller, C. Hodgson, R.
Buller, Sir J. Y. Hogg, J. W.
Carnegie, hon. Capt. Houldsworth, T.
Charteris, hon. F. Hope, hon. C.
Chute, W. L. W. Hope, G. W.
Clive, E. B. Horsman, E.
Clive, hon. R. H. Howard, hn. C. W. G.
Collett, W. R. Howard, hn. E. G. G.
Colvile, C. R. Howard, hon. H.
Corry, right hon. H. Hughes, W. B.
Courtenay, Viscount Inglis, Sir R. H.
Cowper, hon. W. F. Jermyn, Earl
Cresswell, B. Johnson, W. G.
Cripps, W. Johnston, A.
Crosse, T. B. Johnstone, H.
Currie, R. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. H.
Damer, hon. Colonel Kemble, H.
Denison, E. B. Knatchbull, right hn. Sir E.
Dickinson. F. H.
Divett, E. Knight, H. G.
Dodd, G. Knight, F. W.
Douglas, Sir C. E. Labouchere, rt. hn. H.
Douglas, J. D. S. Leicester, Earl of
Drummond, H. H. Lennox, Lord A.
Duncombe, T. Lincoln, Earl of
Dundas, D. Litton, E.
Eaton, R. J. Lockhart, W.
Egerton, W. T. Lowther, J. H.
Eliot, Lord Lygon, hon. General
Elphinstone, H. Mackenzie, W. F.
Escott, B. Maclean, D.
Ferguson, Colonel Mahon, Viscount
Feilden, W. Mainwaring, T.
Ferrand, W. B. Mangles, R. D.
Fitzalan, Lord Manners, Lord J.
Fitzroy, Captain March, Earl of
Ffolliott, J. Marjoribanks, S.
Forbes, W. Marshall, W.
Forman, T. S. Marsham, Viscount
Fuller, A. E. Martin, C. W.
Gaskell, J. Milnes Maule, right hon. F.
Gill, T. Miles, P. W. S.
Gladstone, rt. hn. W. E. Mimes, R. M.
Gordon, hon. Capt. Mitchell. T. A.
Mordaunt, Sir J. Scott, hon. F.
Mostyn, hn. E. M. L. Shaw, right hon. F,
Mundy, E. M. Sheppard,T.
Muntz, G. F. Smith, rt. hon. R. V.
Murray, C. R. S. Somerset, Lord G.
Neeld, J. Somerton, Viscount
Neville, R. Somerville, Sir W. M.
Nicholl, rt. hon. J. Stanley, Lord
Northland, Viscount Stewart, J.
O'Brien, A. S. Stuart, W. V.
Palmer, G. Strutt, E.
Parker, J. Tancred, H. W.
Peel, rt. hon. Sir R. Taylor, T. E.
Peel, J. Taylor, J. A.
Philips, M. Tennent, J. E.
Pigot, Sir R. Thesiger, F.
Plumridge, Captain Thornely, T.
Powell, Colonel Tufnell, H.
Praed, W. T. Tuite, H. M.
Pringle, A. Verner, Colonel
Pusey, P. Vernon, G. H.
Rae, rt. hon. Sir W. Waddington, H.S.
Rashleigh, W. Wakley, T.
Reade, W. M Whitmore, T. C.
Reid, Sir J.R. Wilson, M.
Richards, R. Wortley, hon. J. S.
Rous, hon. Captain Wrightson, W. B.
Russell, J. D. W. Young, J
Ryder, hon. G. D. TELLERS.
Sanderson, R. Clerk, Sir G.
Scarlett, hon. R. C. Fremantle, Sir T.