HC Deb 06 July 1840 vol 55 cc451-2

Sir P. Egerton moved the Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate on the Weaver Churches Bill.

Mr. J. Jervis

proposed a clause, the object of which was the introduction into the number of trustees of ten practical men of those who paid 19–20ths of the funds raised by the tolls.

Clause read a first time. On the question that it be read a second time.

Sir P. Egerton

opposed the clause. It would be unprecedented to introduce into a bill for building new churches, a clause re-modelling the constitution of the trust.

Mr. E. J. Stanley

contended that the amendment was just and reasonable, and one which the House might grant, as it in no way affected the general principle of the bill. Surely, nothing could be more reasonable than that those whose interests were greatly affected by the tolls should be represented in the trustees.

The House divided on the clause: Ayes 72; Noes 140: Majority 68,

On the question that the bill do pass,

Lord R. Grosvenor

opposed it, on the ground that it was wholly unprecedented to take funds for the erection of churches of the Protestant worship from tolls collected from persons of all religious denominations. If this principle were adopted, the trustees of other rivers, canals, or docks, might claim a right to apply the funds of the trusts for the purpose of building churches. He also objected to the bill as sanctioning a complete misapplication of the property of the trust from its original intended objects.

Sir C. Lemon

did not think that the relief of the religious destitution of the district would be a departure from the original intentions of the trust, but he would vote against the bill in the hope of having a better bill on the subject next year.

The House divided: Ayes 181; Noes 93: Majority 88.

List of the AYES.
Acland, Sir T. D. Bramston, T. W.
A'Court, Captain Broadley, H.
Ainsworth, P. Broadwood, H.
Alford, Viscount Brooke, Sir A. B.
Alsager, Captain Brownrigg, S.
Arbuthnott, hon. H. Bruce, C. L. C.
Ashley, Lord Bruges, W. H. L.
Attwood, W. Buller, Sir J.Y.
Attwood, M. Burroughes, H. N.
Bagge, W. Calcraft, J. H.
Bagot, hon. W, Campbell, Sir H.
Bailey, J. jun. Canning, rt. hn. Sir S.
Baker, E. Cantilupe, Viscount
Baldwin, C. B. Cartwright, W. R.
Baring, hon. F. Castlereagh, Viscount
Baring, H. B. Chapman, A.
Baring, hon. W. B. Cholmondeley, hn. H.
Barneby, J. Christopher, R. A.
Barrington, Viscount Chute, W. L. W.
Bethell, R. Clerk, Sir G.
Blackburne, I. Codrington, C. W.
Blackstone, W. S. Colquhoun, J. C.
Blair, J. Corry, hon. H.
Boldero, H. G. Courtenay, P.
Botfield, B. Cresswell, C.
Bradshaw, J. Dalrymple, Sir A.
Damer, hon. D. Lowther, Viscount
Darby, G. Lowther, J. H.
Darlington, Earl of Lygon, hon. General
De Horsey, S. H. Mackenzie, T.
D'Israeli, B. Mackenzie, W. F.
Dottin, A. R. Manners, Lord C, S.
Dowdeswell, W. Miles, P. W. S.
Drummond, H. H. Miller, W. H.
Dugdale, W. S. Milnes, R. M.
Du Pre, G. Mordaunt, Sir J.
East, J. B. Neeld, J.
Eaton, R. J. Nicholl, J.
Eliot, Lord Noel, hon. C. G.
Estcourt, T. Norreys, Lord
Farnham, E. B. Northland, Lord
Feilden, W. Packe, C. W.
Fitzroy, hon. H. Pakington, J. S.
Forester, hon. G. Palmer, R.
Fox, S. L. Parker, M.
Freshfield, J. W. Parker, R.
Gaskell, J. Milnes Fallen, J. W.
Gladstone, W. E. Perceval, Colonel
Glynne, Sir S. R. Pigot, R.
Gordon, hon. Capt. Planta, rt. hon. J.
Gore, O. J. R. Polhill, F.
Gore, O. W Pollen, Sir J. W.
Goring, H. D. Praed, W. T.
Graham, rt. hon. Sir J. Pringle, A.
Granby, Marquess of Pusey, P.
Grant, Sir A. C. Richards, R.
Greene, T. Rickford, W.
Grimsditch, T. Rolleslon, L.
Grimston, Viscount Rushbrooke, Colonel
Grimston, hon. E. H. Rushout, G.
Hale, R. B. Sanderson, R.
Halford, H. Sandon, Viscount
Hawkes, T. Scarlett, hon. J. Y.
Heathcoat, G. J. Shaw, rt. hon. F.
Herbert, hon. S. Sheppard, T.
Herries, rt hon. J. C. Shirley, E. J.
Hillsborough, Earl of Sibthorp, Colonel
Hodgson, F. Smith, A.
Hodgson, R. Somerset, Lord G.
Holmes, W. Stanley, E.
Hope, hon. C. Stanley, Lord G.
Hope, H. T. Stuart, W. V.
Hope, G. W. Sturt, H. C.
Hotham, Lord Teignmouth, Lord
Houldsworth, T. Thesiger, F.
Houstoun, G. Thompson, Mr. Ald.
Hughes, W. B. Thornhill, C.
Hurt, F. Tollemache, F. J.
Ingestrie, Viscount Trevor, hon. G. R.
Irton, S. Tyrell, Sir J. T.
Jenkins, Sir R. Vere, Sir C. B.
Jones, Captain Verner, Colonel
Kemble, H. Villiers, Viscount
Knatchbull, right hon. Sir E. Vivian, J. E.
Williams, R.
Knight, H. G. Wodehouse, E.
Knightley, Sir C. Wood, Colonel
Lennox, Lord A. Wynn, rt. hon. C. W.
Lincoln, Earl of Yorke, hon. E. T.
Litton, E.
Lockhart, A. TELLERS.
Long, W. Egerton, Sir P.
Lowther, hon. Colonel Egerton, Mr. T.
List of the NOES.
Abercromby, hn. G. R. Lushington, rt. hon. S.
Alston, R. Lynch, A. H.
Archbold, R. Muntz, G. F.
Barnard, E. G. O'Connell, D.
Barry, G. S. Ord, W.
Berkeley, hon. H. Oswald, J.
Berkeley, hon. C. Parker, J.
Bewes, T. Parnell, rt. hon. Sir H.
Blackelt, C. Pattison, J.
Bodkin, J. J. Pendarves, E. W. W.
Brocklehurst, J. Philips, M.
Brodie, W. B. Ramsbottom, J.
Brotherton, J. Redington, T. N.
Busfeild, W. Rice, E. R.
Clive, E. B. Rippon, C.
Collins, W. Rundle, J.
Denison, W. J. Salwey, Colonel
Divelt, E. Sandford, E. A.
Duff, J. Scrope, G. P.
Duncombe, T. Smith, B.
Easthope, Stanley, hon. E. J.
Ellice, E. Stanley, hon. W. O.
Ellis, W. Stansfield, W. R. C.
Evans, G. Steuart, R.
Evans, W. Stock, Dr.
Ewart, W. Strickland, Sir G.
Fielden, J. Strutt, E.
Fleetwood, Sir P. Stuart, Lord J.
Guest, Sir J. Style, Sir C.
Hall, Sir B. Thornely, T.
Handley, H. Troubridge, Sir E. T.
Hastie, A. Vigors, N. A.
Hawkins, J. H. Villiers, hon. C. P.
Hill, Lord A. M. Vivian, rt. hn. Sir R. H.
Hindley, C. Wakley, T.
Hobhouse, T. B. Walker, R.
Hodges, T. L. Wallace, R.
Hollond, R. Warburton, H.
Hoskins, K. White, A.
Hume, J. Williams, W.
Hutt, W. Wilshere, W.
Hutton, R. Wood, Sir M.
James, W. Wood, B.
Jervis, J. Wrightson, W. B.
Jervis, S. Yates, J. A.
Langdale, hon. C. TELLERS.
Lang ton, W. G. Grosvenor, Lord R.
Lemon, Sir C. Wilbraham, Mr. G.

Bill passed.

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