§ Dr. Nichollmoved that the House resolve itself into a Committee on the Church Vestries Bill.
§ Mr. Humemoved, that the House would resolve itself itself into a Committee that day three months.
§ Mr. Hodgesseconded the amendment. In many parishes the Bill would cause great expense, and the whole measure was as objectionable as unnecessary.
§ Mr. Warburtonsaid, notice should have been given of a bill, the effect of which would be in so many cases to saddle the country with great additional expense. If the bill were made permissive, it might have a beneficial effect.
Mr. O'Connellobjected to the Roman Catholics being called upon to pay new taxes. He hoped, therefore, the hon. and learned Member would exempt Ireland from the operation of the bill, as he had already done Scotland. It would introduce a new church rate into that country.
§ Mr. J. Grattanalso hoped the hon. Member would exclude Ireland.
Colonel Percevalhoped the hon. and learned Member would include Ireland, as he was convinced that such a bill was much more necessary for that country than England.
§ Lord Worsleywould not oppose going into Committee; but it was his intention to persuade the House, if he could, to adopt certain clauses, which it was his intention to propose.
§ Dr. Nichollsaid, the hon. and learned Gentleman asked him to except Ireland from this bill, saying it would introduce a new Church-rate for Ireland. He denied this. If there were any part of the empire which ought to be submitted to the operation of the bill, it was Ireland. He could not consent to render this bill permissive, and thought he was bound to press the question without further delay.
§ Sir R. H. Inglistrusted his hon. and learned Friend would not withdraw his motion. Every promise of opposition to this bill had been amply redeemed, for it had been opposed at every stage.
§ The House divided on the original motion:—Ayes 76; Noes 78: Majority 2.
| List of the AYES. | |
| Acland, T. D. | Boldero, H. G. |
| Arbuthnot, H. | Bradshaw, J. |
| Ashley, Lord | Bramston, T. W. |
| Baillie, Col. | Brownrigg, S. |
| Baker, E. | Bruges, W. H. L. |
| Baring, H. B. | Chute, W. L. W. |
| Baring, hon. W. B. | Darby, G. |
| Barrington, Lord | De Horsey, S. H. |
| Blackstone, W. S. | Dick, Q. |
| Blair, J. | Douglas, Sir C. E. |
| Eastnor, Lord | Mackinnon, W. |
| Eaton, R. J. | Mahon, Lord |
| Egerton, W. T. | Palmer, G. |
| Estcourt, T. | Parker, M. |
| Fector, J. M. | Peel, Sir R. |
| Filmer, Sir E. | Perceval, Colonel |
| Follett, Sir W. | Perceval, G. J. |
| Freshfield, J. W. | Pread, W. M. |
| Gibson, T. | Pread, W. T. |
| Gladstone, W. E. | Richards, R. |
| Goulburn, H. | Rose, Sir G. |
| Graham, Sir J. | Round, J. |
| Grant, F. W. | Rushbrooke, R. |
| Greene, T. | Sandon, Lord |
| Grimsditch, T. | Sheppard, T. |
| Grimston, Lord | Sinclair, Sir G. |
| Herbert, hon. S. | Somerset, Lord G. |
| Hillsborough, Earl of | Stanley, Lord |
| Hodgson, R. | Sturt, H. C. |
| Hope, hon. C. | Sugden, Sir E. |
| Hope, G. W. | Teignmouth, Lord |
| Jermyn, Earl | Trench, Sir F. |
| Jones, T. | Vere, Sir C. B. |
| Knight, H. G. | Verner, Colonel |
| Lascelles, W. S. | Wall, C. B. |
| Lefroy, right hon. T. | Welby, G. E. |
| Lowther, J. H. | |
| Lucas, E. | TELLERS. |
| Lygon, General | Inglis, Sir R. H. |
| Mackenzie, T. | Nicholl, J. |
| List of the NOES. | |
| Anson, hon. Colonel | Langdale, hon. C. |
| Archbold, R. | Langton, W. C. |
| Barnard, E. G. | Lushington, C. |
| Bernal, R. | Lynch, A. H. |
| Briscoe, J. I. | Macnamara, W. |
| Brodie, W. B. | Mactaggart, J. |
| Brotherton, J. | Maule, hon. F. |
| Bryan, G. | Molesworth, Sir W. |
| Buller, E. | Morpeth, Lord |
| Byng, E. | Morris, D. |
| Cave, R. O. | O'Connell, D. |
| Codrington, Admiral | O'Connell, M. |
| Collins, W. | Paget, F. |
| Crawley, S. | Parker, J. |
| Dashwood, G. H. | Pechell, Captain |
| Denison, W. J. | Philips, M. |
| Duckworth, S. | Philips, G. R. |
| Fielden, J. | Phillpotts, J. |
| Ferguson, R. | Ponsonby, hon. G. |
| French, F. | Power, J. |
| Gillon, W. D. | Pryme, G. |
| Grattan, J. | Russell, Lord J. |
| Grey, Sir G. | Salwey, Colonel |
| Grote, G. | Sanford, E. A. |
| Harvey, D. W. | Seymour, Lord |
| Hastie, A. | Smith, B. |
| Hawes, B. | Somerville, Sir W. M. |
| Hayter, W. | Steuart, R. |
| Hector, C. J. | Stewart, J. |
| Hill, Lord A. M. C. | Strutt, E. |
| Howick, Lord | Style, Sir G. |
| Hutton, R. | Thomson, C. P. |
| James, W. | Thornely, T. |
| Kinnaird, A. F. | Vigors, N. A. |
| Labouchere, H. | Villiers, C. P. |
| Wallace, R | Worsley, Lord |
| Warburton, H. | Yates, J. A. |
| Ward, H. | TELLERS. |
| White, A. | Hume, J. |
| Wilmot, Sir J. E. | Hodges, T. L. |
§ Dr. Nichollsaid, considering the numbers on the division, and seeing how the influence of Government had been used against it, he did not despair of seeing some such bill carried in the ensuing Session.