HC Deb 07 February 1812 vol 21 c703
Mr. Secretary Ryder

rose to state to sir Samuel Romilly, that the Committee who were now sitting to inquire into the propriety and utility of erecting Penitentiary Houses, would not have leisure to extend their inquiries, according to the wish of the hon. and learned gentleman, into the effects produced by transportation to Botany Bay; but he should move that it be an instruction to the committee to examine into the state of the Hulks, and to report thereon as to any improvements which might be adopted. If, however, the hon. and learned member should wish to move for another Committee to inquire into the effects produced by transportation to Botany Bay, he should not oppose the motion. But it was highly expedient that the committee should proceed first in their inquiries respecting the Hulks, as the size and perhaps the number of Penitentiary Houses, would depend upon the circumstances of that mode of punishment being abolished or not.

Sir S. Romilly

intimated his intention of moving, on Wednesday, for a Committee to inquire into the effects produced by transportation to Botany Bay.