HC Deb 05 November 1992 vol 213 cc402-13W
Mr. Redmond

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list by grade the numbers of staff and their cost for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93, for each executive agency and defence support agency for which he is responsible.

Mr. Aitken

This is a matter delegated to my Department's executive agencies under their framework documents. I have therefore asked each chief executive to reply direct to the hon. Member.

Letter from J. C. R. Hunt to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 5 November 1992:

I am responding to your written parliamentary question, "to ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list by grade the numbers of staff and their cost for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93, for each executive agency and defence support agency for which he is responsible."

The answer is as follows:

The number of staff in each grade is given in the table attached. The staff cost (including superannuation) was £59.4 million in 1991–92 and is expected to be £62.9 million in 1992–93.

Meteorological office staff numbers
Grade Average 1991–92 Estimated Average 1992–93
2 1 1
3 1 1
4 2 2
5 9 9
6 28 31
7 137 142
Senior Scientific Officer 338 355
Higher Scientific Officer 449 458
Scientific Officer 475 486
Assistant Scientific Officer 542 506
Senior Telecommunications Technical Officer 7 8
Higher Telecommunications Technical Officer 35 36
Telecommunications Technical Officer 47 47
Assistant Telecommunications Technical Officer 33 36
Senior Professional and Technology Officer 5 6
Higher Professional and Technology Officer 20 21
Professional and Technology Officer 6 7
Senior Executive Officer 5 5
Higher Executive Officer 11 12
Executive Officer 26 30
Adminstrative Officer 81 90
Administrative Assistant 45 50
Clerical/Support 122 114

Grade Average 1991–92 Estimated Average 1992–93
Industrial 32 28
Locally Entered Overseas 42 39
2,499 2,520

Letter from J. A. R. Chisholm to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 5 November 1992:

In today's written answer the Under Secretary of State for Defence informed you that, as Chief Executive of the Defence Research Agency, I would be replying directly to your question concerning numbers and costs of staff in Executive Agencies.

The number of personnel employed by DRA on 1 April 1991 was 12,027 and the total staff costs for 1991–92 were £206 million. On 1 April 1992 total personnel numbered 11,187 for whom the costs in 1992–93 will be £211 million. Staff numbers as at 1 October 1992 are 11,267. This number will reduce slightly by the end of the year as a result of my recently announced voluntary redundancy scheme.

My colleague Roger Warren wrote to you on my behalf in July listing the DRA staffing levels by grade as at 1 April 1992. I have repeated that information below for your convenience. I am afraid a breakdown by grade is not available for 1 April 1991.

Numbers
Non industrial staff
Grade 2 1
Grade 3 8
Grade 4 6
Grade 5 40

Pay costs by grade
1991–92 1992–93
Strength in grade Pay/allotment/OT/ERNIC £ Superannuation £ Total £ Strength in grade Pay/allotment/OT/ERNIC £ Superannuation £ Total £
Military
Col/Lt. Col 1 44,080 12,649 56,729 1 46,105 12,811 58,916
Non-Industrial
Deputy Head 2 65,447 4,287 69,734 2 73,822 5,484 79,306
Teacher 46 1,133,407 68,046 1,201,453 47 1,297,338 86,490 1,383,828
Bursar 0 1 26,104 4,109 30,213
RO2 1 15,892 2,518 18,410 1 17,229 2,731 19,960
Doctor/Medical/Consultant 1 36,660 5,785 42,445 0.5 12,888 1,612 14,500
EO 1 15,208 2,409 17,617 1 15,854 2,511 18,365
Librarian 1 22,100 3,508 25,608 0.3 6,981 1,110 8,091
HIO 1 16,918 2,680 19,598 1 18,083 2,867 20,950
IO 1 3 46,238 7,333 53,571 3 49,195 7,794 56,989
IO 2 0.5 11,165 1,764 12,929 0.5 11,640 1,839 13,479
Admin Officer 2 22,209 3,511 25,720 2.5 28,952 4,590 33,542
Typist 3 34,082 5,387 39,469 3 32,139 5,100 37,239
SOG(C) 1 16,097 2,551 18,648 1 16,897 2,678 19,575
PIGS(E) 1 13,608 2,154 15,762 1 14,284 2,261 16,545
SG(1) 1 9,866 1,584 11,450 1 10,807 1,706 12,513
School Nurse 2 28,926 969 29,895 2 39,383 1,336 40,719
House Matron 10 97,387 15,502 112,889 10 104,792 16,692 121,484
Industrial
Senior Store Keeper 1 8,315 1,255 9,570 1 8,718 1,313 10,031
Store Keeper 1 8,038 1,213 9,251 1 8,437 1,272 9,709
L/H Lab 1 7,743 1,179 8,922 1 8,298 1,250 9,548
Labourer 2 17,087 2,275 19,362 2 17,976 2,396 20,372
Housemaid 8 68,392 10,324 78,716 8 71,898 10,875 82,773
Wardmaid 1 8,494 1,137 9,631 1 7,958 1,198 9,156
Exp Wkr (1) 1 8,803 1,329 10,132 1 8,989 1,355 10,344
Exp Wkr (3) 2 16,007 2,416 18,423 2 16,894 2,543 19,437
Exp Wkr (5) 0.5 5,796 875 6,671 0.5 6,030 922 6,952
Caretaker 1 7,536 1,137 8,673 1 7,958 1,198 9,156
Steward (1) 0.5 5,969 902 6,871 0.5 6,192 946 7,138

Numbers
Grade 6 197
Grade 7 857
SSO/SPTO/SEO 1,285
HSO/HPTO/HEO 1,558
SO/PTO/EO 1,501
ASO/AO/AA/Sec 1,160
Others 894
Sub Total 7,507
Industrial staff
Craft 2,047
Non-craft 1,443
Sub Total 3,490
Military staff
All ranks 190
Total 11,187

I hope you find this information helpful.

Letter from Colonel G. H. Wilson to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 3 November 1992:

I refer to your parliamentary question, received on 29 October, which asked the Secretary of State for Defence to list by grade the numbers of staff and their cost for each Executive Agency for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93.

The Duke of York's Royal Military School was established as an Executive Agency of the MOD on 1st April 1992. Attached are staff numbers and costs for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93.

1991–92 1992–93
Strength in grade Pay/allotment/OT/ERNIC £ Superannuation £ Total £ Strength in grade Pay/allotment/OT/ERNIC £ Superannuation £ Total £
Swim Bath Att 1 8,200 1,198 9,398 1 8,372 1,261 9,633
Totals 97.5 1,799,670 167,877 1,967,547 98.8 2,000,213 190,250 2,190,463

Letter from Mr. J. D. Hankinson to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 4 November 1992:

I have been asked to write to you in answer to your Parliamentary Question.

Date of Order Paper: 28 October 1992

Queen Victoria School: Estimated staff and their costs, 1992–93
Grade Number Basic pay ERNIC Overtime Superannuation Total
Senior management team 5.5 160,589 14,004 2,500 14,326 191,419
Teaching and instructional staff 28.0 648,923 49,365 52,965 751,253
Support staff" NI 20.5 202,034 14,091 22,018 30,247 268,390
1 13.0 121,627 7,614 5,226 15,222 149,689
67.0 1,133,173 85,074 29,744 112,760 1,360,751

I trust this answer is helpful. Further instructions can be supplied if required.

Letter from Rear Admiral J. A. L. Myres to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 4 November 1992:

Hydrographic Office DSA—Parliamentary question

You recently asked the Secretary of State for Defence to list by grade the numbers of staff and their cost for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93, for each Executive Agency and Defence Support Agency for which he is responsible. The Minister has asked me, as Chief Executive, to reply in respect of the Hydrographic Office Defence Support Agency.

The information you requested is at the Annex. I hope this is helpful.

The information has been placed in the Library.

Letter from I. S. Mitchelson to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 3 November 1992:

I have been asked to reply to your Parliamentary Question to the Secretary of State for Defence in which you asked him to list by grade, the numbers of staff and their cost for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93, for each Executive Agency and Defence Support Agency for which he is responsible.

I attach a table which sets out the information you requested, in relation to SCS (NWE).

If you require further information or feel that I can be of further assistance please do not hesitate to get in touch with me.

Grade Financial year 1991–92 Numbers in post Financial year 1992–93 Numbers in post
Administrative staff
Chief Executive 1 1
Deputy Chief Executive 1 1
Other UK based Civilians 4.2 8
Total cost £240K £364K
Professional support staff
Chief Inspector Adviser 1 1
Principal Educational Psychologist 1 1
Senior Careers Adviser 1 1
Senior Inspection Adviser 0 2.75
S02 (Education)-Major 1 0
Inspector Adviser 8 5.8

Mr. Martin Redmond (Don Valley)

"31. To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list by grade the numbers of staff and their cost for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93 for each executive agency for which he is responsible.

"Answer: This School has been an Executive Agency since April 1st, 1992, hence it is appropriate to provide the estimated figures for 1992–93. They are as follows:

Grade Financial year 1991–92 Numbers in post Financial year 1992–93 Numbers in post
Advisory Teachers 12.8 14.7
Educational Psychologists 5.8 6.4
Senior Social Workers 3 3.4
Careers Advisers 3 3
Staff Development Officers 3 3
Total cost £1,197K £1,298K
Educational staff
Head teachers 84 77.7
Deputy Headteachers 78.1 75.4
UK based Assistant Teachers 817.9 800.2
UK based Support 10.8 11
Total cost £26,588K £28,798K
Locally employed civilians
Teachers 286.9 278.8
Other Grades1 946.3 962.4
Total cost £13,762K £13,813K
1 This category includes miscellaneous support staff such as cooks, cleaners, secretaries etc.

Letter from D. R. French to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 3 November 1992:

MAINTENANCE GROUP DEFENCE SUPPORT AGENCY

1. In response to Parliamentary Question 7256F, seeking the numbers of staff making up the subject Agency and their costs for financial year 1991–92 as well as the estimated figures for this financial year, you are advised that the outturn cost for the Service element in financial year 1991–92 was £126 million with the estimate for this financial year being £123 million. For the civilian element the outturn cost for financial year 1991–92 was £80 million and the estimate for this year is currently £84 million.

2. Please find at Annexes A and B the required detailed breakdown by rank/grade and number.

Annex:

A. Numbers of Service Staff for 1991–92 and Estimated Figures for 1992–93.

B. Number of Civilian Staff for 1991–92 and Estimated Figures for 1992–93.

The details have been placed in the Library.

Letter from M. J. Dymond to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 5 November 1992:

You asked the Secretary of State for Defence for details of the number of staff in each grade and their costs in 1991–92 and 1992–93 for each MOD executive agency. As Chief Executive of DGDA I have been asked to reply for my Agency. The table at Annex A (attached) sets out the information requested.

DGDA staff numbers
Grade Actual average 1991–92 Forecast average 1992–93
United Kingdom non-industrial staff Numbers Numbers
Open Structure Grade 4 1 1
Open Structure Grade 5 3 3
Open Structure Grade 6 9 9
Open Structure Grade 7 15 15
Senior Executive Officer 53 52
Higher Executive Officer 176 165
Executive Officer 447 427
Senior Personal Secretary 1 1
Administrative Officer 1,023 1,006
Administrative Assistant 325 319
Typing Manager 2 4
Personal Secretary 2 3
Typist 10 29
Support Grade 1 12 12
Support Grade 2 46 52
Support Manager 2 2
Support Manager 3 1 3
Total United Kingdom non-industrial staff 2,126 2,103
United Kingdom industrial staff 7 8
Locally entered personnel 9 9
Total non-industrial staff 2,142 2,120
Actual costs £000 Forecast outturn £000
Total staff costs (includes pensions and gratuity liability) 31,464 33,710

Letter from Dr. Graham S. Pearson to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 5 November 1992:

1. Your Parliamentary Question to the Secretary of State for Defence asking if he will list by grade the numbers of staff and their costs for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93 for each Executive Agency and Defence Support Agency has been passed to me for reply as Chief Executive of the Chemical and Biological Defence Establishment.

NARO DSA Numbers and cost
Non industrial grades 1991–92 Numbers 1991–92 Cost £ 1992–93 Numbers 1992–93 Cost £
Unified Grade 7 4 115,781 4 120,607
Senior Executive Officer 2 71,123 2 50,778
Higher Executive Officer 10 168,768 10 186,668
Executive Officer 12 190,232 12 268,531
Administrative Officer 59 637,628 57 680,919
Administrative Assistant 39 211,779 36 233,640
Personal Secretary 1 12,262 1 12,691
Typist 9 94,644 9 93,707
Senior Professional Technical Officer 16 389,141 16 426,713

2. The number of staff in post at the end of 1991–92 and their salary/wage costs for that year were 603 and £10.08M respectively; a grade breakdown is provided in the Annex.

3. Our staff target for 1992–93 is 639½ and the estimated cost of their salary/wage costs in this year is £11.31M; a grade breakdown is also in the Annex. The difference in staff in this year numbers arises from a number of vacancies on 1 April 1992 and from additional repayment work being undertaken by this Establishment.

Chemical and biological defence establishment
Grade 1991–92 End of year strength 1992–93 Target
(a) (b) (c)
Non-industrial staff
Defence science group 260.5 282.0
Medical officers (research) 5.0 7.0
Veterinary officers 1.0 1.0
Defence engineering service 19.0 21.0
Professional photographical class 7.0 8.0
Process and general supervisory 15.0 16.0
Officer support grades 6.0 6.0
Graphics officer class 2.0 2.0
Occupational health nurses 3.0
Administration class 64.0 61.0
Secretarial class 12.0 12.0
Stores officer 3.0 3.0
Retired officers 3.0 3.0
Librarian class 1.0 1.0
Investigating officer 1.0 1.0
Fire service officer 1.0 1.0
Total non-industrials 400.5 428.5
Service officers 13.0 12.0
Other ranks 7.0 7.0
Total service staff 20.0 19.0
Industrial staff
Craft grades 26.0 27.0
Non-craft grades 156.5 165.0
Total industrial 182.5 192.0
Total staff 603.0 639.5

Letter from Major General R. Wood to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 2 November 1992:

Reply to Parliamentary Question 7256F

Details of Military Survey DSA staff numbers and costs for 1991–92 and 1992–93 are attached.

The details have been placed in the Library.

Letter from Captain D. E. Symonds to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 5 November 1992:

The response to your Parliamentary Question to the Secretary of State for Defence concerning a listing by grade of the numbers and costs of staff employed in the Naval Aircraft Repair Organisation (NARO) DSA, is shown at the Annex to this letter.

Non industrial grades 1991–92 Numbers 1991–92 Cost £ 1992–93 Numbers 1992–93 Cost £
Higher Professional Technical Officer 51 1,141,447 45 1,164,847
Professional Technical Officer 260 4,772,213 241 4,734,241
Stores Officer Grade 'B' 1 22,651 1 23,670
Stores Officer Grade 'C' 4 69,963 4 88,229
Stores Officer Grade 'D' 16 273,354 16 272,160
Instructional Officer 1 16,565 1 17,458
Support Grade 1 4 43,815 4 45,871
Support Grade 2 2 16,200 2 16,378
Processing & General Supervisory Grade 'C 1 2,648 1 17,000
Processing & General Supervisory Grade 'D' 2 39,620 2 30,349
Processing & General Supervisory Grade 'E' 1 35,377 1 21,838
Communications Officer 3 1 16,699 1 21,776
Communications Officer 4 3 31,686 3 32,804
Senior Photographer 1 18,142 1 18,531
Total Non Industrial 500 8,193,801 470 8,578,686
Craft 651 9,218,268 626 8,955,819
Non Craft 325 3,790,171 308 3,735,192
Apprentices 152 1,036,890 147 1,104,014
Total Industrial 1,128 13,814,523 1,081 13,795,025
Total Civilian Staff 1,628 22,008,324 1,551 22,373,711
Captain RN 1 43,626 1 47,163
Commander 3 123,559 3 133,577
Lieutenant Commander 5 147,349 4 127,437
Lieutenant RN 1 23,352 1 25,245
Captain Army 1 25,206 1 27,250
Chief Petty Officer 1 28,224
Total Military 12 391,315 10 360,672
Grand Total 1,640 22,399,639 1,561 22,734,383

Letter from Mr. P. Altobell to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 4 November 1992:

Minister of State (DP) asked me to write to you about my Agency staff numbers and their costs.

Defence Analytical services Agency
Staff numbers and costs 1991 to 1993
Number of staff in full-time equivalents Estimated staff costs in £'000
1 April 1991 1992 1993 1991–92 1992–93
Grade 4 1.0 1.0 1.0 50 60
Grade 5 2.0 2.0 2.0 90 100
Grade 6 1.0 2.0 2.0 40 80
Grade 7 21.0 19.5 17.0 680 660
Senior/Assistant Statistician 6.0 6.0 6.0 100 100
Senior Executive Officer 2.0 2.0 3.0 50 60
Higher Executive Officer 21.0 20.0 18.0 400 440
Executive Officer 45.0 45.0 43.0 750 780
Administrative Officer 35.5 33.5 31.5 430 430
Administrative Assistant 8.5 7.0 7.5 80 70
Personal Assistant 3.0 2.0 2.0 40 30
Higher Scientific Officer 1.0 1.0 0 20 20
Warrant Officer (RAF) 1.0 1.0 1.0 20 30
College Based Sandwich Course Student 8.0 4.0 10.0 60 70
Totals 156.0 146.0 144.0 2,810 2,930

Note:—Staff costs comprise basic salary plus Earnings Related National Insurance Contributions (ERNIC).

Letter from D. Leadbeater to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 2 November 1992:

In his reply of 5th November, the Secretary of State for Defence referred to agency chief executives the question:

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list by grade the numbers of staff and their cost for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93, for each executive agency and defence support agency for which he is responsible.

I have provided this information in the attached table. However, because of restructuring, we do not have a complete record of our costs on a compatible basis before we became an Agency in July 1992. In consequence the cost figures for both 1991–92 and 1992–93 are estimates, and I have therefore rounded the figures to the nearest £10,000.

The Defence Operational Analysis Centre was formed as a Defence Support Agency on 1 July 1992; so a comparison of numbers within the agency over the two years is not possible.

Notwithstanding the above limitation on the use of manpower numbers, I can tell you the numbers by grade and costs for year 1991–92 prior to agency status and my projections for year 1992–93 as follows:

Rank/Grade Average Actual Number 1991–92 Estimated Number 1992–93
Scientific Staff
Grade 4 1.0 1.0
Grade 5 2.0 2.0
Grade 6 8.0 8.0
Grade 7 20.3 19.5
SSO 15.9 16.0
HSO 14.0 16.0
SO 8.5 7.0
ASO 4.2 3.0
Services
Captain RN 0.9 1.0
Commander RN 1.0 1.0
Lieutenant Commander RN 2.0 2.0
Lieutenant WRNS 0.3
Colonel (Army) 1.0 1.0
Lieutenant Colonel (Army) 3.7 2.0
Major (Army) 12.0 11.0
Group Captain (RAF) 1.0 1.0
Wing Commander (RAF) 3.0 2.0
Squadron Leader (RAF)
Support Staff (Non-Industrial)
Grade 7 1.0 1.0
SEO 1.0
HEO 4.0 4.0
EO 3.7 4.0
AO 12.3 13.0
AA 7.8 7.5
SPS 1.0 1.0
PS 3.0 3.0
TM 1.0 1.0
Typist 2.2 2.0
EO/ADP 2.0 2.0
AO/ADP 2.9 3.0
AA/ADP 1.0 3.0
S/Lib 1.0 1.0
Assistant Lib 1.0 1.0

Staff numbers Costs
Grade/Rank 1991–92 1992–93 1991–92 £ 1992–93 £
MILITARY
Brigadier 1.00 1.00 49,193 55,140
Colonel 2.00 2.00 81,687 93,622
Lieutenant Colonel 3.00 2.40 104,252 96,507
Major 8.00 8.25 223,849 265,183
Captain 7.00 7.00 157,958 192,427
Lieutenant 1.50 1.00 33,848 26,268
Warrant Officer 1 6.00 4.75 161,887 128,532
Warrant Officer 2 10.00 12.58 220,755 253,899
Staff Sergeant 10.00 9.00 216,667 203,912
Sergeant 30.00 33.70 625,472 687,164
Corporal 69.50 53.42 1,136,479 831,653
Lance Corporal 53.00 52.00 715,001 707,354
Private 90.50 70.50 924,923 680,837
Total Military 291.50 257.60 4,651,971 4,222,498
CIVILIAN
Non Industrial
Grade 7 1.00 1.00 34,161 34,572
HEO 3.00 3.00 59,782 62,136
EO 4.50 4.40 77,411 76,107
AO 15.50 18.73 179,894 237,034
AA 7.50 8.00 71,443 80,100
Personal Secretary 1.00 1.00 14,474 15,289
Typist 4.00 4.00 44,703 54,030
Support Grade 1 33.00 31.23 386,614 415,371
Support Grade 2 119.00 112.79 307,080 144,576
Support Manager 2 1.00 1.00 16,324 16,358
Support Manager 3 2.00 2.84 26,010 36,132
Defence Couriers 39.50 36.33 627,677 643,962

Rank/Grade Average Actual Number 1991–92 Estimated Number 1992–93
TG1 1.0 1.0
SG1 1.0 1.0
SG2 1.0 1.0
P Photo 2.0 2.0
HPTO 2.0 2.0
PTO 1.0
Civilian Staff Total Numbers 148.1 150.0
Cash Costs 2,937K 131,678K
Service Staff Total Numbers 30.8 27.0
Cash Costs 1,326K 21,250K
Total Staff Numbers 178.9 177.0
Cash Costs 4,263K 4,418K
1Costs include basis pay, ERNIC and allowances
2 Costs include basic pay, ERNIC and overtime

Letter from Brigadier M. A. Browne to Mr. Martin Redmond, dated 5 November 1992:

In response to your question of the Secretary of State for Defence concerning staff numbers by grade and costs for 1991–92 and the estimated figures for 1992–93 for each executive agency and defence support agency I am replying in respect of the Defence Postal and Courier Service—Defence Support Agency as Chief Executive.

The staff figures for 1991–92 are the average strength in each grade for the year and the associated costs are the actual outturn figures.

Those for 1992–93 are the estimated average strength for the year and the costs are my forecast as at 31 September 1992.

Staff numbers Costs
Grade/Rank 1991–92 1992–95 1991–92 £ 1992–93 £
Industrial
Chief Steward 1 2.00 2.00 20,148 24,638
Steward 1 2.00 2.00 19,115 20,564
Steward 2 2.00 1.15 18,598 11,459
Mess Hand 11.75 11.59 109,264 122,139
Senior Storekeeper 0.50 4,823
Storekeeper 2.00 2.41 17,737 20,987
Assistant Storekeeper 0.50 4,305
Driver 1.00 1.00 8,610 10,438
Labourer 2.00 18,598 21,535
Total Civilian 252.75 246.47 3,066,771 3,047,427

I hope this information meets your requirements and is helpful in building the overall picture for staffing and costs for Ministry of Defence executive and defence support agencies.

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