HC Deb 11 May 1992 vol 207 cc19-20W
Mr. Alfred Morris

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will announce a time-table for reducing the number of prisoners in police cells; how many prisoners were so detained at the latest date for which figures are available; and in which police authority areas;

(2) when he expects Operation Container to be discontinued;

(3) what representations his Department has had about the future of Operation Container and the problems it has caused for the police service;

(4) if he will be meeting representatives of the greater Manchester police authority to discuss Operation Container; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Peter Lloyd

Operation Container was set up specifically to deal with the shortage of prison accommodation in the greater Manchester area caused by the destruction of Manchester prison in April 1990. Since then, the prison population has risen and there is now a general shortfall throughout England and Wales of prison accommodation available to house all those who have been committed to prison by the courts. Measures have been taken to make more effective use of prison accommodation, and new accommodation is being added to the estate.

Nevertheless, on 7 May there were still 1,638 prisoners in police cells for whom places could not be founed in prisons. They were held by the following police forces:

Number
Avon and Somerset 43
Bedfordshire 21
Cambridgeshire 20
Cheshire 36
Cleveland 29
Cumbria 31
Derbyshire 15
Devon and Cornwall 22
Durham 34
Dyfed 24
Essex 13
Greater Manchester 233
Gwent 2
Hampshire 3
Hertfordshire 14
Humberside 30
Lancashire 114
Leicestershire 21
Lincolnshire 13
Merseyside 71
Metropolitan 203
Norfolk 11
North Wales 15
North Yorkshire 19
Northamptonshire 28
Northumbria 79
Nottinghamshire 34
South Wales 61
South Yorkshire 45
Staffordshire 11

Number
Suffolk 19
Surrey 14
Sussex 2
Thames Valley 24
Warwickshire 11
West Mercia 6
West Midlands 40
West Yorkshire 130
Wiltshire 18
Total 1,638

My right hon. Friend the Member for Mole Valley (Mr. Baker) when Home Secretary met a delegation from the greater Manchester police authority on 9 March. My predecessor as prisons Minister, my right hon. Friend the Member for Mitcham and Morden (Mrs. Rumbold), also met a delegation and visited Manchester to see Operation Container at first hand. I have had no request for a further meeting. I know that it was made clear to the delegation that although changes in the prison population made it impossible to predict when the use of police cells would cease the problem was regarded as extremely serious and the task of bringing it to an end was a top priority for the prison service.

Neither I, nor my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary regard the detention of remand or sentenced prisoners in police cells as acceptable either for the prisoners or the police. I hope that the measures which we have taken and the availability of new prison places will soon have an impact on the numbers. I cannot give a precise timetable, because the rate of progress is of course vulnerable to changes in the numbers of prisoners committed to prison by the courts.