HC Deb 05 November 1987 vol 121 cc816-8W
19. Ms. Primarolo

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will change the onus of proof for the possession of firearms in the same way that he proposes for the carrying and possession of knives and other offensive weapons.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

As my right hon. Friend said in the: debate on firearms in the House on 26 October, at columns 28 to 69, the burden of proof on the carrying of firearms in a public place already falls on the individual concerned. Section 19 of the Firearms Act 1968 makes it an offence for any person, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him), to have with him in a public place a loaded shotgun or loaded air weapon, or any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm. To be in possession of firearms an individual must satisfy the requirements for the issue of a certificate.

20. Mr. Graham

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further discussions he has had with the Police Federation regarding the tightening of controls over the ownership and use of firearms.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

We have not discussed this matter recently with the Police Federation but my right hon. Friend is very much aware of their views.

28. Mr. Henderson

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he intends to bring shotguns within the scope of his proposals on the ownership and use of firearms.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

My right hon. Friend has already announced that we intend to bring self-loading and pump action shotguns under the same controls as rifles and handguns. We also intend to impose a statutory obligation on shotgun certificate holders to store their weapons securely when they are not being used.

29. Mr. Fallon

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what response he has received to his proposals for the reform of gun controls.

33. Mr. O'Brien

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what response he has had to his proposals to tighten controls over the ownership and use of firearms.

61. Mr. Yeo

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received regarding reform of the gun control laws.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

I refer the hon. Members to the reply I gave earlier to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Solihull (Mr. Taylor).

31. Mr. Leigh

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make it his policy to consult those representing rural interests before introducing new firearms legislation; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

We recognise the important role that shooting plays in rural communities, both as a sport and, for many people, as a necessary means of vermin control. We have written to a number of organisations representing rural interests to request their views on our proposals. These include the National Farmers Union, the Countryside Commission, the Council for the Protection of Rural England, the Association of County Councils, the Association of District Councils and the British Deer Society.

34. Mr. Illsley

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in order to encourage co-operation from firearms users, any future firearms legislation will include proposals to compensate those owners whose firearms would thereby be rendered illegal.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

This is one of the matters currently under consideration.

40. Mr. Alex Carlile

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many firearm certificates were issued in each of the years 1984, 1985 and 1986; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

In 1986, 12,074 new firearm certificates were issued in England and Wales, compared with 11,663 in 1985 and 11,413 in 1984. The table shows, by police force area, the number of certificates on issue and the number of dealers registered at 31 December 1986. More detailed figures on the issue of firearm and shotgun certificates will be published shortly in a Home Office statistical bulletin.

Table
Firearm and shotgun certificates on issue and firearms dealers registered at 31 December 1986, by police force area
England and Wales
Force Number of certificates on issue Number of dealers registered
Firearm Shotgun
Avon and Somerset 6,159 30,160 79
Bedfordshire 1,410 9,479 21
Cambridgeshire 3,075 19,311 42

Force Number of certificates on issue Number of dealers registered
Firearm Shotgun
Cheshire 2,689 17,708 31
Cleveland 900 3,766 10
Cumbria 4,248 15,180 36
Derbyshire 2,389 16,893 40
Devon and Cornwall 9,560 47,471 111
Dorset 2,902 15,022 40
Durham 2,355 8,543 17
Essex 5,205 27,063 110
Gloucestershire 2,836 15,447 47
Greater Manchester 2,623 14,314 44
Hampshire 5,828 30,115 67
Hertfordshire 1,897 13,912 43
Humberside 4,858 15,235 50
Kent 7,428 31,060 97
Lancashire 3,530 18,732 61
Leicestershire 2,124 15,791 50
Lincolnshire 4,644 23,185 54
London, City of 59 68 6
Merseyside 2,064 6,257 25
Metropolitan 9,084 41,814 287
Norfolk 3,912 30,335 44
Northamptonshire 2,403 12,656 33
Northumbria 7,023 14,417 42
North Yorkshire 6,398 24,154 58
Nottinghamshire 1,963 14,856 38
South Yorkshire 1,718 11,460 18
Staffordshire 3,316 19,152 51
Suffolk 3,968 23,016 55
Surrey 2,723 15,623 72
Sussex 6,097 29,759 100
Thames Valley 7,199 33,284 138
Warwickshire 1,655 12,390 42
West Mercia 5,225 38,038 100
West Midlands 2,760 15,997 99
West Yorkshire 3,589 16,580 86
Wiltshire 2,765 14,383 41
Dyfed Powys 4,255 28,160 51
Gwent 852 10,213 15
North Wales 2,495 21,250 33
South Wales 2,102 18,702 39
Total 160,285 840,951 2,523

54. Mr. Dykes

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will summarise the principal conclusions he has drawn from the representation of gun clubs so far received in the preparation for new firearms control legislation.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

The consensus of opinion expressed by the gun clubs is against most of the proposals we have announced. We believe that, whilst the interest of legitimate shooters must be taken into account, a substantial shift in the balance of firearms law is necessary to meet the needs of public safety.

Sir John Farr

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to introduce a Firearms Bill.

Mr. Douglas Hogg

As my right hon. Friend indicated during the recent debate on firearms controls—26 October 1987, columns 28–69—we hope to be able to announce a comprehensive package of measures on firearm controls by the end of November with a view to introducing a Bill before Christmas.

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