HC Deb 22 January 1987 vol 108 cc674-85W
Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if he will estimate the number of new units of housing accommodation necessary to meet anticipated demand in Wales over the next three years; and what resources will be available to meet that demand;

(2) what is the current shortfall in the provision of housing in Wales; and what are the figures for each year since 1976–77.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

There continues to be a crude surplus of stock of dwellings over households in Wales but after making allowances for regional imbalance, concealed households, demolitions, rehabilitation and other factors our current estimate is that about 13,000 new units a year might be needed. The figure is based upon new research carried out for the Welsh Office by the University of Wales Institute of Science and Technology. The estimate is based on a large number of assumptions and is accordingly subject to considerable uncertainty.

Gross housing capital provision in 1987–88 has been increased by 19 per cent. for the local authorities. Provision for the Housing Corporation has been increased by 22 per cent. for next year and includes resources to support private finance initiatives by housing associations as well as provision to maintain the corporation's normal programme of homes for rent. The private sector will make its own judgment on the balance between supply and demand for dwellings for owner occupation.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many houses in each local authority area in Wales (a) in the public sector and (b) which are owned by housing authorities need repairs costing £5,000 or more; and what have been the equivalent figures for each year since 1979.

Mr. Edwards

No reliable estimate of the numbers of public sector houses requiring repairs at a cost in excess of £5,000 is currently available. The 1986 Welsh House Condition Survey will provide estimates of repair costs for houses in the public sector which will include details down to district council level.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many people are currently on the waiting lists of Welsh local authorities; and how many have been waiting (a) six months or less, (b) between six months and one year, (c) between one and two years, (d) more than two years; and what proportion each of the categories (a), (b) and (c) represent of the total.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The information is not collected centrally.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many private and public housing starts have been made in each local authority area in Wales in each year since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Information for the period 1979–85 is published in "Welsh Housing Statistics" (Nos 1–6), copies of which are available in the Library of the House.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the total amount needed to finance repairs of defective housing in Wales at current prices.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

It is impossible to estimate with any accuracy the cost of bringing the defective housing in Wales up to a satisfactory standard of repair. The Welsh House Condition Survey which the Department is currently undertaking is by far the largest survey ever carried out in Wales. The survey will provide the first detailed analysis of the state of repair of the stock at the district level and will give us valuable information to help determine future allocations to local authorities for housing expenditure.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what percentage and actual numbers of houses in each local authority area in Wales were built (a) before 1890, (b) between 1890 to 1919, (c) between 1919 to 1945, (d) between 1945 to 1955 and (e) after 1955.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The stock of dwellings by date of construction for each local authority in Wales was not available.

The following table shows estimates of the total housing stock for Wales at 31 December 1985, by the available age bands.

Date of construction Number of dwellings (thousands) Percentage of all dwellings
Pre-1891 245 21.8
1891–1918 195 17.4
1919–1944 153 13.7
1945–1970 345 30.8
Post 1970 182 16.3
TOTAL 1,120 100.0

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the percentage change in the level of housing subsidy to local authorities in Wales between 1979 and 1986 in real and cash terms.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The level of housing subsidies paid to local authorities in Wales has reduced by 79 per cent. between 1979–80 and 1986–87 (estimated). This represents a reduction of 87 per cent. in real terms.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give the average housing capital expenditure per 1,000 population based on a current definition of population at capital outturn for each financial year since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Gross housing capital expenditure in Wales per 1,000 population for the period 1979–80 to 1985–86 was as follows:

£000 per 1,000 population
1979–80 54
1980–81 52
1981–82 47
1982–83 68
1983–84 96
1984–85 77
1985–86 66

The population figures used are the relevant mid-year estimates in each case.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales which local authorities in Wales have adopted the Audit Commission's suggestion in "Improving Council House Maintenance", that they draw up detailed five-year plans for the maintenance of their housing stocks.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

This information is not collected centrally. However, we welcome the thrust of this report which complements the efforts the Welsh Office is making to improve the delivery of housing services to council tenants in Wales.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the latest figures for the total housing stock in Wales, the total number and percentage of dwellings that are unfit and the number and percentage of dwellings which lack basic amenities in each housing authority area; and if he will publish the figures for each year since since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The stock of dwellings since 1979 is shown in the following table. The figures for 1981 and subsequent years are based on the results of the 1981 population census.

Year All tenures (thousands)
December 1979 1,062
December 1980 1,068
December 1981 1,089
December 1982 1,096
December 1983 1,103
December 1984 1,112
December 1985 1,120

Detailed information on the condition of housing in Wales has been obtained from the 1981 Welsh House Condition Survey which provides the following estimates of the number of unfit dwellings and dwellings lacking amenities at county level. The 1986 Welsh House Condition Survey is designed to update the 1981 analysis and to provide details at district council level.

Unfit dwellings Dwellings lacking amenities
Number per cent. Number per cent.
Clwyd 6,300 4.1 5,000 3.3
Dyfed 13,400 11.1 10,200 8.5
Gwent 17,000 10.6 12,800 8.0
Gwynedd 4,700 5.4 6,800 7.8
Mid Glamorgan 20,500 10.5 24,900 12.8
Powys 4,200 10.4 2,700 6.7
South Glamorgan 11,800 8.6 7,700 5.7
West Glamorgan 13,000 9.6 13,400 9.9
WALES 90,900 8.8 183,600 8.1
1Wales total differs due to rounding.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table showing how many houses specifically designed for disabled people have been built in each housing authority area in Wales in each quarter since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The information requested is not readily available and a reply will be sent as soon as possible.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many permanent staff in the Welsh Office have experience of housing management.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

None. However, the Department has access to very substantial experience in housing management through the consultants engaged for the priority estates programme.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will set out at constant prices the change in subsidies and capital investment in housing in Wales between 1976–77 and 1986–87, showing the subsidy as a percentage of investment.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Housing subsidies paid to local authorities in Wales have reduced by 88 per cent. in real terms between 1976–77 and 1986–87 (estimated). Gross housing capital expenditure has reduced by 38 per cent. in real terms over the same period. Housing subsidies represented 30 per cent. of gross housing capital expenditure in 1976–77 and 6 per cent. in 1986–87.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table showing the figures for (a) the total number of people, (b) the total number of people over the age of 65 years and (c) the total number of children under 15 years of age and living in dwellings which are unfit; and if he will publish the figures for those in categories (a), (b) and (c), living in dwellings lacking one or more basic amenities in each housing authority area for each year since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

It is not possible to estimate reliably from existing sources the numbers of people living in dwellings which are unfit or lacking amenities.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the gross domestic fixed capital formation in dwellings per head of population for Wales.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Gross domestic fixed capital formation on local authority dwellings in Wales per head of population is estimated to total £12.17 in 1986–87.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will set out a table showing, for each local authority in Wales (a) its actual housing investment expenditure and (b) the total housing investment programme allocation available to it for the last full financial year.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The information requested is shown in the following table:

Housing capital outturn and HIP allocation 1985–86
Local authority Outurn £'000 Allocation £'000
Aberconwy 1,644 1,308
Alyn and Deeside 3,041 2,102
Arfon 2,837 2,107
Blaenau Gwent 5,937 5,114
Brecknock 1,866 1,663
Cardiff 18,528 12,055
Carmarthen 3,814 2,898
Ceredigion 2,995 2,124
Colwyn 2,008 2,046
Cynon Valley 2,361 2,472
Delyn 1,353 1,225
Dinefwr 1,298 924
Dwyfor 609 605
Glyndwr 1,536 1,377
Islwyn 5,346 4,699
Llanelli 3,252 2,310
Lliw Valley 2,663 2,596
Meirionnydd 1,511 886
Merthyr Tydfil 2,393 2,119
Monmouth 5,140 3,336
Montgomeryshire 1,171 1,344
Neath 3,345 2,151
Newport 11,098 6,084
Ogwr 5,419 4,181
Port Talbot (Afan) 1,545 1,347

Local authority Outturn £'000 Allocation £'000
Preseli 3,011 1,870
Radnor 901 791
Rhondda 7,243 5,972
Rhuddlan 905 831
Rhymney Valley 4,876 4,750
South Pembrokeshire 2,538 1,694
Swansea 9,748 7,460
Taff-Ely 3,431 4,253
Torfaen 5,154 3,740
Vale of Glamorgan 2,369 2,664
Wrexham Maelor 4,432 3,589
Ynys Môn 2,424 2,457

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many houses were built (a) by local authorities, (b) by independent housing authorities and (c) by private companies in each local authority area in each year since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The required information on housing completions for the period 1979 to 1985 is published in "Welsh Housing Statistics" (Nos. 1 to 6), copies of which are available in the Library of the House.

Mr. D. E. Thomas

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, if he will list in the Official Report the locations and numbers of untenanted local authority houses; and how long they have been vacant.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The information is given in the following table:

Vacant Dwellings: 1 April 1986
Total vacant dwellings Of which vacant for more than 6 months
Aberconwy 23 10
Alyn and Deeside 50 10
Arfon 38 0
Blaneau Gwent 93 10
Brecknock 4 0
Cardiff 234 42
Carmarthen 21 17
Ceredigion 38 0
Colwyn 29 1
Cynon Valley 87 18
Delyn 85 14
Dinefwr 0 0
Dwyfor 3 0
Glyndwr 81 0
Islwyn 94 0
Llanelli 94 0
Lliw Valley 51 0
Meirionnydd 20 8
Merthyr Tydfil 109 9
Monmouth 76 2
Montgomeryshire 48 5
Neath 60 0
Newport 197 20
Ogwr 75 0
Port Talbot (Afan) 99 26
Preseli 62 10
Radnor 10 0
Rhondda 79 0
Rhuddlan 18 0
Rhymney Valley 43 6
South Pembrokeshire 28 1
Swansea 240 10
Taff-Ely 62 0
Torfaen 115 13
Vale of Glamorgan 65 15
Wrexham Maelor 314 77

Total vacant dwellings Of which vacant for more than 6 months
Ynys Mon 59 5
Wales 2,804 329

Mr. D. E. Thomas

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list in the Official Report the number of houses completed in Wales each year since 1961 including the totals for the first three-quarters of 1986.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The number of completed dwellings in Wales since 1961 is given in the following table:

Number of dwellings completed in Wales: 1961–1985
Number
1961 12,669
1962 15,110
1963 14,080
1964 18,969
1965 19,524
1966 19,360
1967 20,158
1968 19,182
1969 17,304
1970 15,473
1971 15,101
1972 14,770
1973 14,334
1974 11,811
1975 17,236
1976 15,234
1977 14,414
1978 12,638
1979 11,265
1980 10,487
1981 9,106
1982 7,926
1983 7,812
1984 9,187
1985 8,213

Number of dwellings completed in Wales in the first three- quarters of 1986
Number
January–March 1986 1,898
April–June 1986 2,264
July–September 1986 2,090

Mr. D. E. Thomas

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will set out the notional housing revenue account for Wales for the current financial year and the estimates made in respect of the next financial year; and if he will list the assumptions contained therein.

Central Government Subsidy Entitlement
£000
1979–80 1980–81 1981–82 1982–83
Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices
Aberconwy 357 595 494 694 0 0 0 0
Alyn and Deeside 701 1,168 738 1,037 139 178 0 0
Arfon 773 1,288 909 1,277 205 262 0 0
Blaenau Gwent 3,432 5,718 4,053 5,692 2,881 3,684 1,662 1,981
Brecknock 1,351 2,251 1,387 1,948 786 1,005 159 190
Cardiff 4,202 7,001 5,498 7,722 2,226 2,847 0 0
Carmarthen 1,005 1,674 1,164 1,635 804 1,028 515 614
Ceredigion 1,114 1,856 1,181 1,659 850 1,087 387 461
Colwyn 583 971 752 1,056 343 439 0 0

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Based on the latest returns made by local authorities to the Welsh Office, the estimated housing revenue account for Wales for the current year is set out in the following table. Similar information is not available at this stage for 1987–88; the relevant local authority returns will not be available until the early autumn.

Housing Revenue Account: 1986–87 Estimate
£ million
Expenditure
Supervision and management 42
Repairs and maintenance 88
Interest payments 131
Debt repayments 26
Capital met from revenue 4
Other expenditure 1
Change in balances -7
Total expenditure 285
Income
Gross rent 228
Interest on mortgages 14
Interest on capital receipts 16
Rate fund contribution:
Rate rebate administration 2
Other rents and income 13
Total income 273
Balancing and Funding items
Deficit 12
Financed by
Exchequer subsidy 10
Voluntary rate fund contributions 3
Transfers to the general rate fund -1

Mr. D. E. Thomas

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the amounts of exchequer housing subsidies and non-statutory rate fund contributions in each year since 1979–80 both in outturn terms and at 1986–87 prices for each local authority in Wales and in total for Wales.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Based on returns made by local authorities to the Welsh Office, the information as estimated in the following tables.

The figures in the table showing rate fund contributions exclude statutory contributions made in respect of rent rebates.

The amounts shown at 1986–87 prices have been derived by the application of the GDP market price deflators.

1979–80 1980–81 1981–82 1982–83
Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices
Cynon Valley 1,440 2,399 1,625 2,282 901 1,152 320 381
Delyn 1,112 1,853 1,211 1,701 430 550 0 0
Dinefwr 516 860 655 920 300 384 0 0
Dwyfor 155 258 217 305 3 4 0 0
Glyndwr 560 933 703 987 294 376 0 0
Islwyn 1,644 2,739 1,926 2,705 894 1,143 0 0
Llanelli 2,104 3,505 2,282 3,205 1,215 1,554 0 0
Lliw Valley 2,007 3,334 2,009 2,822 1,283 1,641 400 477
Meirionnydd 683 1,138 796 1,118 475 607 131 157
Merthyr Tydfil 2,410 4,015 2,633 3,698 1,544 1,974 654 780
Monmouth 1,126 1,876 1,209 1,698 473 605 0 0
Montgomeryshire 793 1,321 921 1,294 270 345 0 0
Neath 1,441 2,401 1,674 2,351 653 835 0 0
Newport 4,350 7,247 5,446 7,649 3,732 4,772 2,284 2,724
Ogwr 3,169 5,280 3,610 5,070 1,983 2,536 464 553
Port Talbot 858 1,429 797 1,119 0 0 0 0
Preseli 1,714 2,856 1,476 2,073 615 786 0 0
Radnor 373 621 511 718 302 386 125 149
Rhondda 1,415 2,357 1,558 2,188 1,189 1,520 645 769
Rhuddlan 230 383 308 433 0 0 0 0
Rhymney Valley 3,642 6,068 4,033 5,664 2,564 3,279 1,129 1,346
South Pembroke 1,146 1,909 1,141 1,603 607 776 14 17
Swansea 2,993 4,987 3,225 4,529 866 1,107 0 0
Taff Ely 1,835 3,057 2,029 2,850 937 1,198 0 0
Torfaen 2,458 4,095 2,967 4,167 1,539 1,968 568 677
Vale of Glamorgan 1,978 3,295 2,010 2,823 1,166 1,491 200 238
Wrexham Maelor 1,736 2,892 2,064 2,899 0 0 0 0
Ynys Mon 1,274 2,123 1,607 2,257 855 1,093 0 0
TOTAL 58,680 97,765 66,819 93,846 33,324 42,615 9,657 11,514

£000
1983–84 1984–85 1985–86 1986–87
Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices
Aberconwy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alyn and Deeside 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Arfon 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Blaenau Gwent 1,730 1,975 1,466 1,604 1,522 1,568 1,582 1,582
Brecknock 160 183 81 88 53 55 44 44
Cardiff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Carmarthen 530 605 659 721 811 836 831 831
Ceredigion 395 451 576 630 597 615 635 635
Colwyn 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cynon Valley 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Delyn 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dinefwr 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dwyfor 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Glyndwr 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Islwyn 0 0 0 0 127 131 193 193
Llanelli 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Lliw Valley 435 496 402 440 624 643 741 741
Meirionnydd 33 38 0 0 40 41 0 0
Merthyr Tydfil 328 374 152 167 276 284 270 270
Monmouth 0 0 122 134 NK NK NK NK
Montgomeryshire 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Neath 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Newport 2,182 2,490 1,955 2,140 3,267 3,365 2,395 2,395
Ogwr 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Port Talbot 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Preseli 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Radnor 134 153 189 207 191 197 221 221
Rhondda 542 619 544 595 593 611 500 500
Rhuddlan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rhymney Valley 519 592 454 497 878 905 546 546
South Pembroke 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Swansea 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Taff Ely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Torfaen 748 854 673 737 845 870 1,539 1,539
Vale of Glamorgan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wrexham Maelor 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ynys Mon 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 7,735 8,829 7,275 7,960 9,825 10,120 9,496 9,496

Rate fund contributions to the HRA
£000
1979–80 1980–81 1981–82 1982–83
Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices
Aberconwy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alyn and Deeside 19 32 80 112 19 24 28 33
Arfon 0 0 0 0 0 0 25 30
Blaenau Gwent 333 555 1,156 1,624 1,187 1,518 828 987
Brecknock 120 200 360 506 372 476 212 253
Cardiff 235 392 1,453 2,041 484 619 760 906
Carmarthen 213 355 226 317 148 187 147 176
Ceredigion 160 267 200 281 175 224 125 149
Colwyn 11 18 35 49 44 56 100 119
Cynon Valley 384 640 344 483 743 950 961 1,146
Delyn 301 501 257 361 0 0 0 0
Dinefwr 60 100 199 279 336 430 39 46
Dwyfor 32 53 51 72 60 77 0 0
Glyndwr 127 212 155 218 168 215 0 0
Islwyn 11 18 88 124 300 384 291 348
Llanelli 0 0 87 122 0 0 0 0
Lliw Valley 44 73 208 292 0 0 0 0
Meirionnydd 125 208 26 37 77 98 14 16
Merthyr Tydfil 999 1,664 819 1,150 377 482 539 643
Monmouth 264 440 169 237 202 258 57 68
Montgomeryshire 123 205 241 338 0 0 0 0
Neath 284 473 284 399 335 428 126 150
Newport 0 0 149 209 203 260 0 0
Ogwr 54 90 429 603 532 680 431 514
Port Talbot 553 921 293 412 102 130 0 0
Preseli 422 703 401 563 147 188 2 2
Radnor 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rhondda 499 831 486 683 908 1,161 1,207 1,439
Rhuddlan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rhymney Valley 1,119 1,864 1,414 1,986 966 1,235 1,279 1,525
South Pembroke 97 162 107 150 169 216 254 303
Swansea 747 1,245 531 746 933 1,193 262 313
Taff Ely 1,001 1,668 1,034 1,452 839 1,073 779 928
Torfaen 768 1,280 507 712 520 665 1,298 1,548
Vale of Glam 124 207 315 442 214 274 195 232
Wrexham Maelor 558 930 567 796 393 503 778 927
Ynys Mon 415 691 555 779 217 278 368 439
Total 10,202 16,997 13,226 18,576 11,168 14,282 11,104 13,241

1983–84 1984–85 1985–86 1986–87
Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices
Aberconwy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alyn and Deeside 12 14 20 21 25 26 25 25
Arfon 25 29 11 12 29 30 37 37
Blaenau Gwent 139 159 35 39 0 0 0 0
Brecknock 124 142 77 84 156 160 137 137
Cardiff 750 856 0 0 0 0 0 0
Carmarthen 148 169 152 167 153 157 150 150
Ceredigion 200 228 0 0 0 0 0 0
Colwyn 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cynon Valley 331 378 159 175 256 264 0 0
Delyn 0 0 0 0 446 459 477 477
Dinefwr 0 0 6 7 12 13 91 91
Dwyfor 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Glyndwr 40 45 0 0 0 0 0 0
Islwyn 275 314 0 0 75 77 100 100
Llanelli 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Lliw Valley 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Meirionnydd 83 95 35 38 0 0 0 0
Merthyr Tydfil 624 712 140 153 290 298 102 102
Monmouth 61 70 301 330 nk nk nk nk
Montgomeryshire 60 69 0 0 0 0 0 0
Neath 60 68 60 65 0 0 0 0
Newport 182 208 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ogwr 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Port Talbot 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Preseli 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
Radnor 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rhondda 1,286 1,468 1,243 1,360 1,402 1,444 907 907

1983–84 1984–85 1985–86 1986–87
Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices Outturn prices 1986–87 prices
Rhuddlan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rhymney Valley 0 0 336 367 0 0 0 0
South Pembroke 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Swansea 780 891 550 602 105 108 274 274
Taff Ely 1,001 300 328 0 0 0 0
Torfaen 435 497 438 479 186 191 160 160
Vale of Glam 178 203 200 219 87 90 0 0
Wrexham Maelor 914 1,043 576 630 272 280 320 320
Ynys Mon 324 370 101 110 0 0 215 215
Total 7,336 8,374 4,742 5,189 3,495 3,600 2,998 2,998

Mr. D. E. Thomas

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the value of Exchequer housing subsidies and rate fund contributions per local authority dwelling in Wales for each year from 1978–79 to 1986–87 in outturn terms and at 1986–87 prices.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

Based on returns made by local authorities to the Welsh Office, the information is estimated to be as follows:

Central Government Subsidy Entitlement £ per annum per dwelling Rate Fund Contributions1
Outturn Prices 1986–87 Prices Outturn Prices 1986–87 Prices
1978–79 174 339 20 39
1979–80 206 343 36 60
1980–81 233 327 46 65
1981–82 118 151 39 50
1982–83 36 43 41 49
1983–84 27 31 28 32
1984–85 30 33 19 21
1985–86 40 41 14 14
1986–87 38 38 12 12
1Excluding statutory contributions in respect of rent rebates.

The amounts shown at 1986–87 prices have been derived by the application of the GDP market price deflators.

Mr. Wigley

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give an estimate of how many more dwellings than households there are in Wales at present; and what are the figures for each year since 1979.

Mr. Wyn Roberts

The difference between the number of dwellings and the number of households in Wales in each year since 1979 is shown in the following table:

Year Number of dwellings minus number of households ('000s)
1979 65
1980 61
1981 77
1982 80
1983 83
1984 84
1985 85

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