HC Deb 21 July 1980 vol 989 cc78-85W
Sir Donald Kaberry

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Ministers in his Department have made journeys abroad; if he will specify the number of separate occasions (a) to EEC countries and (b) to overseas countries outside the EEC within the 12 months to 30 June; how many staff of his Department and others accompanied the individual Minister on each occasion; what was the overall cost on each occasion in respect of travel, subsistence and other expenditure involved; how many days were occupied on each visit; what was the object of each journey; and how many such visits are now planned to be undertaken from 1 July to 31 December.

Mr. Pym

All five Ministers within the Ministry of Defence have made journeys abroad. Details of visits during the 12 months ending 30 June 1980 are set out below. Details of the costs of all the visits are not readily available and I shall write to my hon. Friend shortly.

EEC COUNTRIES
Numbers accompanying Number of days Minister Country Object
Secretary of State Belgium 7 MOD 3 To attend NATO Eurogroup and Defence Planning Committee.
1 FCO Committee.
Secretary of State Federal Republic of Germany 1 2 To visit British Forces
Secretary of State Federal Republic of Germany 8 2 To attend Trilateral Ministerial equipment discussions in Hamburg.
Secretary of State Netherlands 12 MOD 2 To attend NATO Nuclear Planning Group
1 FCO
Secretary of State Belgium 7 MOD 4 To attend NATO Eurogroup and Defence Planning Committee.
1 FCO
Secretary of State Federal Republic of Germany and Berlin. 3 3 To express and strengthen Her Majesty's Government's commitment to Berlin and to visit British Forces.
Secretary of State Belgium 7 MOD 3 To attend NATO Eurogroup and Defence Planning Committee.
1 FCO
Minister of State Federal Republic of Germany 1 2 To visit British Forces
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Italy 2 4 To visit NATO facilities in Naples and La Spezia dockyard
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Holland 1 2 To visit International Defence Expo '80
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Belgium (Brussels) 1 1 To visit SHAPE
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Germany 2 2 To visit British Forces
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Germany 1 1 To visit an Exericse.
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Belgium 1 1 To visit NATO HQ, SHAPE and EEC
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Belgium 2 2 To visit NATO HQ
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Federal Republic of Germany 2 2 To visit RAF Units
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Federal Republic of Germany 2 3 To have discussions with MOD Bonn and to visit German Air Force.

NON-EEC COUNTRIES
Minister Country Numbers accompanying Number of days Object
Secretary of State United States of America 7 4 At the invitation of the United States Government to discussions and to meet the Senate Armed Service: Committee and senior officials of the United State: Administration.
Secretary of State China/Hong Kong 8 MOD 8 At the invitation of the Government of the People's Republic to represent Her Majesty's Government at the opening of the Society of British Aerospace Companies Exhibition in Shanghai and to have discussions with the Chinese Defence Minister and other Chinese officials in Peking; and to visit British Forces in Hong Kong.
1 FCO
3 DOI
Secretary of State Norway 11 MOD 2 To attend NATO Nuclear Planning Group, then:
1 FCO
(1st Phase)
6 2 At the invitation of the Norwegian Defence Minister to view Norwegian defence activities; and to visit HQ Allied Forces Northern Europe.
(2nd Phase)
Minister of State Belize 2 5 Familiarisation and to check on progress made in remedying problems.
Minister of State Cyprus 3 6 Familiarisation with the role of British Forces; to gain operational experience of equipment.
Minister of State Hong Kong 2 7 Familiarisation with the role of British Forces and to discuss the Defence Costs Agreement.
Minister of State United States of America 3 12 At the invitation of the United States Government for discussions with the Deputy Secretary of Defence, to meet Senators and Congressmen and to visit United States defence industries and establishments.
Under-Secretary of State (RN) United States of America 3 7 Discussions and liaison with United States Navy
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Norway 2 3 To visit Royal Marines Training Exercises
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Gibraltar 2 5 To visit dockyard
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Norway 7 4 To lead official delegation to the 40th Anniversary of the Battles of Narvik.
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Hong Kong/Brunei 2 8 To visit British Forces
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Gibraltar 3 3 To visit British Forces
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Berlin 3 3 To visit British Forces
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Cyprus 3 4 To visit British Forces
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Canada/United States of America 3 9 To visit Canadian and United States Defence Ministries and Air Forces.
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Norway 0 3 To visit Exercise
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Cyprus 2 3 To visit RAF Units
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) United States of America 1 7 Discussions at the Pentagon and to attend SEALINK 80 Conference.

Visits provisionally planned to be undertaken from 1 July to 31 December are as follows:
EEC COUNTRIES
Minister Country
Secretary of State Brussels
Secretary of State Brussels
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Holland
Under-Secretary of State (RN) Germany
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Germany
NON-EEC COUNTRIES
Minister Country
Minister of State South America
Under-Secretary of State (RN) United States of America
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Canada
Under-Secretary of State (Army) Hong Kong
Under-Secretary of State (RAF) Berlin